Do any of you guys run off road or farm diesel in your trucks? If so have you ever been checked buy the DOT or anybody and got a ticket?

2001 F250 Crew Cab, 4*4, PSD

 

I run farm fuel in my 1985 6.9 and it runs fine for an old farm truck that rarely sees blacktop. I've never ran it in my 2001 but I know alot of old farmers that do run it in newer trucks. Keep in mind it takes them 10 years to go 15000 miles and the trucks are pretty well thrashed long before that. Somethings different about it and keep filters on hand.
I would'nt worry about being pulled over, what are they going to do pull out there garden hose and take a sample .

 

I know some ranchers out here that do run it but like it was metion early they rarely see the black top, If you run it and they(DOT) find it or inspect your truck you are in for a world of hurt, first off a 10K fine 2nd you will have to bring your truck (if they let you take it) to a DOT inspection center to make sure you have removed your tank changed you fuel lines and any components related to the fuel system, You will loose your off road fuel card and you might be subject to jail time, Sure its a hole lot cheaper now but what about the long run

 

That's what DOT will be seeing if they pull a sample from your tank and it comes out red 2 oil. Around here, when there's a DOT stop, they have long skinny(like 3/16's) clear plastic ridgid tubes they use to pull samples out of the tanks of big trucks. Now i don't think that method will work in a small truck fuel tank, but you'll prolly never get popped by DOT driving a little truck, thier looking for rig's, not little trucks, unless you look overloaded.

As far as the engine goes, I was out in the middle of nowhere looking for a customers house and my gauge was bouncing on the E. I threw in 10 gallons of No. 2 fuel oil, (HVAC service, 2 jerry cans onboard in case of an 'all-out'), After putting in the fuel oil, she did run a little better, but the exaust stunk like crazy. A friend was saying that red 2 oil has a higher sulfur content, thus explaining the exaust odors.

 

Are yall saying its not good on the truck to run it in it? I thought the only diffrent was that they put a red Die in it??? I don't know i'm just curious and learning!!!!

Thanks Rodney

 

heating fuel, diesel, off road diesel are all the same thing, #2 oil. the difference is that off road fuel doesn't have a road tax added to the price. and they put the red dye in so that if you add even 1 oz of it to the regular fuel they can see it when they test the fuel. heating oil has the same dye in it. They just call it heating fuel so that they can charge an energy tax to it. the dye might effect the emissions a little but other than thatit will not hurt a thing.

For example: detroit's 71 series 2-stroke engine. they used the 3-71 in a lot of skidders and such. they also made a 6V-71 and an 8V-71 which were very popular truck engines. the skidders ran off-road fuel the trucks regular pump fuel ( obviously!!) in reality each of these engines were exactly identical. the only difference was the # of cylinders and the arangement of them. the injectors were interchangeable... same part #...fuel filters were too...injector pumps were the same make just different models because of the added cylinders. see where I'm going..... the offroad fuel and "regular diesel" have identical burning and lubricating properties... just one has a litle dye in it. just like 2-stroke engine oil... its like 20w or 30w oil....just has a blue dye in it...same idea.....

i've got an 85 F-250 with the 6.9 it inI run offroad fuel in it most of the time....its got 350k and counting on it...had to replace the body, cab, fenders, fueltanks, etc,etc,etc......injectors have been replaces once at like 175-200k...never had to do anything else to the engine except rutine mant. of course!!

just my 2¢ worth, hope it helps..

 

The red diesel has sulfur in it, it is reffered to as a (low sulfur) diesel fuel. There is also a (high sulfur) which has a blue dye. The sulfur aids in lubrcating the injection pump, the black smoke when pulling hard, and the smell of diesel exhaust.

 

Cool i think I am gonna give it shot in my ride!!!! at least some anyway! diesel is getting high! lol!!!!

Rodney

 

I know of quite a few people around these parts that run farm fuel in their pickups. One guy I talked to claimed that road fuel severely decreased power when pulling. The people I know run farm fuel, seem to have more gelling problem then those running road fuel.

I have seen diesel pickups spot checked at farm shows for farm fuel. Its not worth the risk to me, although it may be soon! I paid 1.75 for diesel yesterday!

 

I have seen them in Colorado check for red dye, they set up roadblocks and every vehicle with a diesel gets checked.

If you get caught, let us know how big the fines were. It might infuence the next guy to think twice about it.

 

I filled mine up today but i CHICKENED out! it wasn't but .10 differnce at the station i went to so i said it wasn't woth the risk. I heard they may be fina do somthin about the prices of gas and stuff, somthing about it didn't have a reason for getting higher cause gas from over seas hasn't went up any so why is it getting higher at the station, Thats what my dad said he heard on the News but i am not sure about it!

Rodney

 

I was talking about this with a friend that drives for an oil company and he says in CT, your in for a world of hurtin' if you get caught with red 2 oil in the tank. He says the fines start out at 1500.00 and they park your truck for you until you get the fuel system cleared out. Right now, red is 1.60/gal, and un-dyed diesel is 1.799/gal. Not worth the hassell to save 5 bucks on a fillup in my opinion.

Alanscott, thats a sweet Centurian. I've been looking for one on and off for a couple years now. I've found a couple to look at, but it seems I cant find one fully loaded like I want. The last one I looked at was a 93 or 94 IDI turbo(Same setup as my work truck, so I already know how to fix it), it had leather seats and A/C, but nothing else. At least gimmee power windows and door locks, sheesh.

 

The man that brings the fuel out to our farm said that farm fuel would make my truck pull like a bulldozer but it was a $10,000 fine if caught... He may have been exagerating but he seemed serious to me...

 

There is no difference between ag fuel/offroad and road fuel except for the dye in it as long as it comes from the same company. I don't think the dye will affect emmissions or how your motor runs, since they also use dye in the road fuels. #2 Fuel does have more sulfer which helps to lubricate engine components, and it is what causes #2 diesel to gel in the winter. #1 Fuel has a lower sulfer content and doesn't lubricate as well, which is why a lot of trucks don't like to run it, and some newer engines I've heard recommend you don't use more than a 50/50 mix. Running ag fuel in your pick-up won't hurt anything and it won't give you more power, but it will give you a fine if you get checked. I don't know if they do it anymore around here, but they use to set up random checks sites. Had one neighbor that was running red fuel, but he had two tanks and kept the one filled with clear. They did a check on him and the cap around the back one was dirty so he told them that tank didn't work and they didn't use it, and they only checked the one tank with clear. I don't really think it is worth the risk of getiting caught. I am wondering why the prices are so close where you guys are at. Are you comparing Road fuel to Heater Oil instead of Offroad fuel? You should be able to subtract the state and federal fuel tax off the price of the clear and that should be the price of the red. Heater Oil is subject to taxes though which would make it higher. Oh yeah, to throw something else out, there is also Furnace Oil, which is #1 Red diesel. If your oil tank is inside it gets Heater Oil and if it is outside it gets Furnace Oil.