Fuel Injection System For Stroker?
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Fuel Injection System For Stroker?
My Fall/Winter project for my 92 F250 is going to be building a 408 windsor stroker. I dont know much about fuel injection seeing as everything I have done in the past was with carbs, but i am wondering what to do for an aftermarket fuel injection setup.
From the looks of it, an aftermarket fuel injection setup is around $3k. for that price i would almost rather just throw a 4 barrel on there.
Are there any cheaper setups that I am just not seeing?
Any suggestions/opinions are appreciated.
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Greg- 92 F250
From the looks of it, an aftermarket fuel injection setup is around $3k. for that price i would almost rather just throw a 4 barrel on there.
Are there any cheaper setups that I am just not seeing?
Any suggestions/opinions are appreciated.
Thanks
Greg- 92 F250
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It depends on how wild that stroker is going to be. The factory wiring can be re-used with bigger injectors, much better design intake system then toss on a custom tune. If you keep the cam LSA around 114 you can stay Speed Density. A custom cam would work very well too.
If you start getting wild on the cam then a Mass Airflow (MAF) conversion is in your future. The wiring can be pieced together from later model trucks that came from the factory with MAF.
A custom tune (not to be confused with the generic "power" chips) or a tuner can be added to these OBD-I equipped trucks such as Moates or Tweecer. Take a peek over on NLOC forums to see what those guys are doing to crank more power out of their Gen 1 Lightnings.
If you start getting wild on the cam then a Mass Airflow (MAF) conversion is in your future. The wiring can be pieced together from later model trucks that came from the factory with MAF.
A custom tune (not to be confused with the generic "power" chips) or a tuner can be added to these OBD-I equipped trucks such as Moates or Tweecer. Take a peek over on NLOC forums to see what those guys are doing to crank more power out of their Gen 1 Lightnings.
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Started doing the maf conversion today (wiring). Has taken me about a month or so to get all the parts to do the conversion. And still not there, need a tuner still. I think that I going Moate's (Welcome to www.moates.net! : Moates.Net). Its less expensive, and does the same as the others.
I just put a 393 stroker in, custom exhaust, the works. Hoping that the maf with the the tuner will work the way I want. I'll let you know. Oh, btw I'm planing to put 30lb injectors in.
I just put a 393 stroker in, custom exhaust, the works. Hoping that the maf with the the tuner will work the way I want. I'll let you know. Oh, btw I'm planing to put 30lb injectors in.
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heres a few sites I've found for the maf conversion. IMO best is top, for truck setup.
EEC Performance
Speed Density to Mass Air Conversion. F150, Bronco, Mustang.
Ford Fuel Injection has TONS of info
EEC Performance
Speed Density to Mass Air Conversion. F150, Bronco, Mustang.
Ford Fuel Injection has TONS of info
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Then you will wan't to go to MAF , check out pro m racing , you will want a bigger air meter & throtle body , they also have matched sets of injectors that have been bench test & matched , after you get done you will want a tune , custom burned chip or a tunner to get the best result.....Lew
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If the truck has an E4OD or 4R70w you'll need to use a truck maf EEC since it also controls the tranmission, you would need an additional trans controller with any other computer or EFI system and that usually costs a bundle and complicates the wiring.
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I hate wiring, so i guess it helps that my truck has a ZF 5 speed.
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Yes that helps, you could use a mustang EEC with a Moates Quarterhorse attached and dial it all in from the confort of the drivers seat, there will also be some wiring changes and additions necessary but they're well documented and not too difficult.
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I am wanting to build a Stroker 460 to somewhere into the 520+ range here very soon. Are you saying I could use the stock speed density with an injector upgrade? Im planning on just running an almost identical stock cam. But I am just having a ton of problems finding information on using the speed density.
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I find it odd you are going to the trouble of adding more cubic inches yet stay with a "stock" cam. I am a fan of more CID equals more power, but I would at least go for some better heads and cam to go with that investment.
As long as the cam is SD friendly (stock spec. or otherwise) you could use the factory PCM then add a custom tune with a chip (not to be confused with those off the shelf chips that only advance the timing). The Gen1 Lightning guys do a lot of mods while staying Speed Density. No reason why you could not do the same with your big block.
As long as the cam is SD friendly (stock spec. or otherwise) you could use the factory PCM then add a custom tune with a chip (not to be confused with those off the shelf chips that only advance the timing). The Gen1 Lightning guys do a lot of mods while staying Speed Density. No reason why you could not do the same with your big block.
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Well stock as far as the lobe seperation. I am going to have my fuel injection heads ported. But im not trying to go too crazy yet until I get the fuel injection problem solved.
What would I do for a custom tune? I have been looking at these, but I cannot find information for big block tuning.
QuarterHorse for Fords [QH1] - $249.00 : Moates.Net
What would I do for a custom tune? I have been looking at these, but I cannot find information for big block tuning.
QuarterHorse for Fords [QH1] - $249.00 : Moates.Net
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Moates and Tweecer are good products. In order to do it yourself you would need a wide-band 02 sensor to monitor your A/F ratio. I would start asking around to find a performance shop with a chassis dyno and the ability to create a custom tune with an add-on chips such as Super Chips.
Finding a shop that understands these Speed Density systems and how to tune them would shortened the learning cycle. Poke around a little on the Lightning site to see what those guys are doing. You may find one in your area to help you out.
Finding a shop that understands these Speed Density systems and how to tune them would shortened the learning cycle. Poke around a little on the Lightning site to see what those guys are doing. You may find one in your area to help you out.