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Old Dec 21, 2012 | 05:32 PM
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If I recall correctly, many people have cited about $75 for a new EGT sensor from the dealer. Even FordParts.com is only $65-$70 (estimate)
 
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Old Dec 21, 2012 | 05:56 PM
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SENSOR - EXHAUST GAS - TEMPERA
Part #: 8C3Z5J213D
Pack Qty: 1 Shippable $65.28
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Old Dec 21, 2012 | 07:40 PM
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That seems right, so Alby surely didn't get charged double for the part and two hours labor to change it out. They must be talking about another sensor, don't cha think? Sensor number 3 somebody said, wonder where they start counting. There are 4 in the DPF aren't there? Seems like theres a double there somewhere.
 
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Old Dec 21, 2012 | 08:25 PM
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Only three in the exhaust. 5J213.

 
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Old Dec 21, 2012 | 11:49 PM
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I had one replaced before I did the delete and it was around 150 with labor. You honestly got taken by your dealer unfortunately.
 
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Old Dec 22, 2012 | 12:33 AM
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Let me ask a question about the DPF Delete kits. I see that you have a straight pipe which includes slots for the 3 sensors. So common sense tells me that all you need is the pipe to be swapped out with the DPF filter and then just move the 3 sensors from the DPF to the straight pipe and you are golden.

Now if that is true, what are these little mini computers with LED screens all about? Are they needed for anything? Or do you really only need the straight pipe?


 
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Old Dec 22, 2012 | 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted by AlbyVA
Let me ask a question about the DPF Delete kits. I see that you have a straight pipe which includes slots for the 3 sensors. So common sense tells me that all you need is the pipe to be swapped out with the DPF filter and then just move the 3 sensors from the DPF to the straight pipe and you are golden.

Now if that is true, what are these little mini computers with LED screens all about? Are they needed for anything? Or do you really only need the straight pipe?


You can use the search option and enter dpf delete and read for a month but here's the short version. It is a violation of federal law to remove the dpf. It is probably the best thing you can ever do to preserve the life of your 6.4L motor. To remove the DPF you MUST USE a tuner. The tuners are on ebay under dpf delete they are also available at most diesel speed shops. They run a wide range from DPF delete only to DPF on or off your choice, plus a number of gages to watch and performance limiters to set. You can even buy a tuner and have someone build you a tune unique to you and your truck. You can find many varied opinions on which tuner is best and how much adding 250 HP might harm the motor. Someone (EPA i guess) is causing the tuner builders to shut down their DPF delete tuners. Edge and H&S have left the market. There are still some available but not a lot and the price is going up daily. BTW, none of this is cheap. Expect to spend from $500 to $1500 to get the job done. Expect it to be worth it. Like I said do the search and study up, hope this helps. Good luck.
 
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Old Dec 22, 2012 | 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by RM2738
Only three in the exhaust. 5J213.

Thanks. I only find 3 sensors on here and thats what I thought there were. But when I installed the mini I went under and disconnected them (had to leave them in for the Edge) and I'm sure I taped off 4. Oh well, another mystery to solve.
 
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Old Dec 22, 2012 | 12:07 PM
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You can use the search option and enter dpf delete and read for a month but here's the short version. It is a violation of federal law to remove the dpf. It is probably the best thing you can ever do to preserve the life of your 6.4L motor. To remove the DPF you MUST USE a tuner. The tuners are on ebay under dpf delete they are also available at most diesel speed shops. They run a wide range from DPF delete only to DPF on or off your choice, plus a number of gages to watch and performance limiters to set. You can even buy a tuner and have someone build you a tune unique to you and your truck. You can find many varied opinions on which tuner is best and how much adding 250 HP might harm the motor. Someone (EPA i guess) is causing the tuner builders to shut down their DPF delete tuners. Edge and H&S have left the market. There are still some available but not a lot and the price is going up daily. BTW, none of this is cheap. Expect to spend from $500 to $1500 to get the job done. Expect it to be worth it. Like I said do the search and study up, hope this helps. Good luck.


Thanks. So a tuner + a pipe with the sensors and I'm golden. Does quality matter with a Tuner? I mean does a cheap one work without issue if you aren't seeking any performance, just function?
 
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Old Dec 22, 2012 | 12:58 PM
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Thanks. So a tuner + a pipe with the sensors and I'm golden. Does quality matter with a Tuner? I mean does a cheap one work without issue if you aren't seeking any performance, just function?
With a tuner, you can omit the sensors (W/O Bungs). Quality does matter. Majority use H&S or Spartan.
 
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Old Dec 22, 2012 | 08:16 PM
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Thanks. I only find 3 sensors on here and thats what I thought there were. But when I installed the mini I went under and disconnected them (had to leave them in for the Edge) and I'm sure I taped off 4. Oh well, another mystery to solve.
I believe there are 3 EGT's and a backpressure sensor in the exhaust if I remember correctly.
 
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Old Dec 23, 2012 | 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by AlbyVA
Thanks. So a tuner + a pipe with the sensors and I'm golden. Does quality matter with a Tuner? I mean does a cheap one work without issue if you aren't seeking any performance, just function?
Lots of room for disagreement there. I've done both so let me take a shot. I bought a used edge and used it for awhile just as gages and to tell me when I was in regen. Then I deleted and drove with the Edge for 17,000 miles. I was very happy with how the truck drove, the MPG increase and towing. The Edge does not tune the tranny. I knew that going in and I figured running on the lightest tune (+35 HP and 100 lbs tq) and driving like the old man that I am I could not harm the tranny. About a month or so ago my tranny started acting funny, plus the tuner companies were dropping like flies so i bought a mini. Now, I cannot say that the Edge caused my tranny to act up, nor can I say that it didn't. I can say that it has improved and that other than a delayed first shift from P to D it now has no other issues. And I can say that the mini tunes the tranny and I can feel that as I drive. it also allows me to set some shift points and lock up points. And it allows me to use stock power which the Edge didn't. I can also say that it cost me 700 buckeroos more than the edge did. Now, there is a product called DPF delete that supposedly does nothing but allow you to delete. I think it's about 500 new. There was one on the ATL craigs list under auto parts a few days ago or you can buy new on ebay. it makes no sense to me that the Edge harmed my tranny or that any tuner used in the stock position would, but I wasn't taking any chances. That's my full disclosure tuner eport.
 
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Old Dec 24, 2012 | 01:12 AM
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With a tuner, you can omit the sensors (W/O Bungs). Quality does matter. Majority use H&S or Spartan.

Is there a cheaper alternative in which you use the sensors and don't need a Tuner?

It kind of sucks that in order for a DPF delete to work, you need some multi-hundred or thousand dollar gizmo. Couldn't somebody just come out with a chip that cost $50.00 and does the same thing?
 
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Old Dec 24, 2012 | 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by AlbyVA
Is there a cheaper alternative in which you use the sensors and don't need a Tuner?

It kind of sucks that in order for a DPF delete to work, you need some multi-hundred or thousand dollar gizmo. Couldn't somebody just come out with a chip that cost $50.00 and does the same thing?
Only cheap alternative is to look on craigs for a used tuner or try to find a programmer. There is one in ATL area that advertises on craigs, he says he can reprogram the CPU but, how would you ever get the truck back to stock. Anything goes wrong and whoever does the repairs may need the truck back to stock, not to mention for resale or trade in. To me the tuners are not that expensive for what you get. The delete pipes are outrageous, or at least the ones that don't have bungs welded in for the sensors. Alby, you've got mail.
 
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Old Dec 24, 2012 | 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by AlbyVA
Is there a cheaper alternative in which you use the sensors and don't need a Tuner?

It kind of sucks that in order for a DPF delete to work, you need some multi-hundred or thousand dollar gizmo. Couldn't somebody just come out with a chip that cost $50.00 and does the same thing?
DPF-R is about the least expensive device

DPF-R

Deleting the DPF is "for off road use only." How many 2008+ YM trucks are solely used off road? There's a lot of investment of the R&D side for these guys. If there was a $50 device out there, I don't think I would have used it.

There's a $75 device being advertised on this forum that boasts 5-7mpg GUARANTEED on ANY vehicle and not one person on here has asked if its worth trying or has given their experience. You can't be cheap owning a 2008+ YM diesel. From maintenance to mods to fuel, it'll bite you.
 
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