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Old Jul 28, 2010 | 08:07 AM
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No Door Lock Hole

I do not have a door lock hole in my driver side door. Passenger side has the hole. Prior to tearing down and sending the door to get dipped and stripped I thought maybe someone filled the hole for a clean look. After the strip it seems to be too clean as if it was never there. My next thought is that this must have been a replacement door but the amount of age (gunk and what not) seems to be consistant with the passenger door. I will install the lock after a careful measurement and drill but was wondering if someone has see this before.


 
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Old Jul 28, 2010 | 08:22 AM
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It's stock - Henry didn't want you getting out on the street side and getting hit while locking the door. Exit curb side.
 
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Old Jul 28, 2010 | 08:36 AM
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mtflat beat me to it...yep, that is the way they were made. Looks like you have a good project and a cool helper.
 
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Old Jul 28, 2010 | 08:48 AM
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Interesting, I would have never known if I didn't ask. Thank you. I do not think I will install the lock after all. I like the history.
 
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Old Jul 28, 2010 | 08:58 AM
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Yep, I have a helper and looks like you may also.

I need to ask a couple other questions related to doors but will post in a separate thread so you will get your chance to jump on them first.

Look out.

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Old Jul 28, 2010 | 09:34 AM
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How difficult is it

How difficult is it to install a lock on the drivers side? Or at least set it up where it can lock from the inside? I don't mind exiting on the passenger side, I still have a bench seat in mine.
 
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Old Jul 28, 2010 | 09:47 AM
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I think it would be easy to install the lock on the driver's side. The driver door already has the lock retainer tab hole and the door latch has the lock mechanism ready. I also already bought both door locks with the ignition. So it would really be easy for me. On the other hand, I will not install the driver lock because it is a great history discussion peice. I plan to have a bench seat also.

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Old Jul 28, 2010 | 09:52 AM
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The drivers door should lock from the inside. Push the handle forward and it locks. Pull it back and the door open and unlocks. To install a lock on the drivers door would require cutting the hole and finding or making the rods that go to the lock cylinder. I researched this question some time ago and if you look at the old stage coaches, they only exit on the right side. This was carried into the Model T as well. Probably a lot like the mini van. You never used to be able to get rear passengers out on the drivers side, probably for safety. I'm sure that over the years, consumers demanded doors on both sides of mini vans and now most of them have doors on both sides. I have a '55, and a '53 and they both have the key lock on the passenger side. I also had a '62 and it was the same. However, both doors do lock.
 
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Old Jul 28, 2010 | 10:05 AM
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"Push the handle forward and it locks. Pull it back and the door open and unlocks. "

I did not know! I kept asking myself "Why would they only have a lock on the passenger side" I learned of the logic on exiting on the passenger side here, but could not figure out how to lock on the drivers side.

I am going to check tonight and see if it still works. If it does - you are my hero! Here I was thinking I have to take it all apart and install the lock.

Another project saved because I asked the question here!
 
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Old Jul 28, 2010 | 11:40 AM
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Yeah, what I do is get out of the truck and go around to open the door for the wife. She is trained to lean over and lock my door while I'm coming around to look like a gentleman. She locks my door, I open hers, she gets out andthen I lock it with the key. It's an old time remote system much like I was the TV remote for my father when I was a kid. Depending on how your inside door handles are on, you should have to push it forward. If your door handle point to the floor (don't laugh, I have seen it) then you would pull the hndle back. Actually both doors work the same way. and will lock from inside.
 
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Old Jul 28, 2010 | 06:34 PM
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What happens if you push the handle forward before you close the door, will it lock or not allow the door to latch? I had a 85 Lada, please try not to laugh, that would only let you lock the door the same sort of method but it did have a push down button, a friend insisted that you could push the button down and close the door and it did exactly what I told him and the door could never be locked again. Welcome to the site in the case I missed your introduction.
 
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Old Jul 28, 2010 | 07:06 PM
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It's been discussed before, but we have a lot of new members since then:
In the 1950s all parking was parallel to the curb, malls and strip plazas were only a gleam in developer's eyes back then. Also all vehicle seats were bench style. When parking you were not supposed to enter/exit on the street side of the vehicle (streets were also very narrow and shared with streetcars and busses). So you locked the driver's side from the inside, slid across the seat and exited the curb side, locking the passenger side door (if you bothered to lock the vehicle at all most didn't, in fact many didn't even remove the ignition key, those were much simpler times).
Men's wool trousers (men wore trousers or overalls back then, not slacks or jeans...) showed the wear from this sliding activity by developing a shine, so you could tell a man's prosperity by how often he got in and out of his vehicle or bought new trousers by "the seat of his pants".
 
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As a point of correctness for those working on doors, the inside door handle should be put on at a angle like it is pointing at 7 minutes after if it were a clock face (between the 1 and the 2). This allows you to roll up the window with out banging your knuckles on the door handle. I found this in the 54 soft interior and trim manual.

Also, all the above is true and accurate (of course!) however the Deluxe cabs in '53 and '54 and the Custom Cabs in '55 and '56 had a driver side door lock standard as part of the upgraded package along with a host of other stuff.
 
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Old Jul 28, 2010 | 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by abe
As a point of correctness for those working on doors, the inside door handle should be put on at a angle like it is pointing at 7 minutes after if it were a clock face (between the 1 and the 2). This allows you to roll up the window with out banging your knuckles on the door handle. I found this in the 54 soft interior and trim manual.

Also, all the above is true and accurate (of course!) however the Deluxe cabs in '53 and '54 and the Custom Cabs in '55 and '56 had a driver side door lock standard as part of the upgraded package along with a host of other stuff.
Abe I noticed you referenced the 53-54 deluxe and the 55-56 custom cabs as having the driver side door lock. I have a 51 that also has it and if memory serves me, someone on here said there were several things different and it was called a deluxe cab. Only other thing I can remember is chrome trim around the windshield.
 
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Old Jul 29, 2010 | 06:04 AM
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One last piece of history, many city's/towns (Including Marietta, Ohio where I live) have ordinances on the books making it illegal to exit an automobile from the drivers side. The laws have become obsolete and are not enforced, but they still exist.

For what it is worth
 
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