Keep it clean boys.

 

Doesn't matter to me, they make a Turbo for the 351M now and I can't wait til I get mine.

 

Obviously some people are not reading the sticky. Personal attacks will get you booted. There is no room for it here. I guess some people just don't care. Your loss.

 

Too small...
I test drove a 03 Tundra this weekend.
I don't consider it a full size.... Way too small in the inside. There is no leg room if your over 6 foot tall and the V8 is not all that quick. My wifes 3.4 v6 gm will blow it away... just my 2 cents

 

I had a 2001 Tundra access cab (2wd) it was a very nice truck from the drivers seat forward. The back seat was horrible and the bed was too small.

When I got orders to move to Alaska I decided to get a 4x4. A toyota Tundra limited 4x4 with leather, etc would have cost me 31k. I bought my 2001 F250 V10, crew cab, long bed Lariat with leather, etc for 32K.....not much more.

For only a $1000 more I got the big truck and really like it. Is the SD F250 more truck than I need......you bet. Is it all the truck I'll ever need.....and then some. But I do like it.

I've personally alternated between Toyota and Ford depending if I needed a big truck or small one, both brands have been very reliable with Toyota edging out Ford in that dept. I'd drive either one but do feel more loyal to Ford Blue than to Toyota Red.

 

All bias aside, you'd probably be better with a Dakota Quad cab or Explorer Sport Trac. Or you could just wiat for the crew cab Tundra coming out next year.

 

For you die-hard Toyota fans I hate to burst your bubble, Toyota Tundras are not MADE in the USA, they are assembled by non-union workers in Princeton, Indiana! For those of you who have never stepped outside the GOOD-OLE- US of A.....here goes!

My feeling is competition and free trade worldwide is important, however having said that and having lived in Japan 4 yrs it is not the case in NIPPON! As an American serviceman I was generally discouraged in bringing over my made in the US vehicle....being from Michigan I asked why? Well, parts are hard to get, Japanese roads are too narrow, used Japanese cars are plentiful, etc, etc.... Free trade has to be just that.....FREE! The Japanese have grown ecenomically because our market is so free...not entirely free of tariffs, but normally the lowest in the world.

Back to Toyota Tundra, believe what you will, Toyotas and Japanese Cars in generally are not the problem free vehicles that they would like you to believe. Anyone hear of the 968,000 Honda Accords (1995-1997) recalled for electrical fires or how about the Honda Odyssey recalled for transmission problems? Then the Toyota Highlanders, Toyota Tacomas, 1997-2002 Toyotas and Lexus 3.0L and 2.2 L engines for oil sludge and damage claims....

The best part about America is the choice people are allowed to make everyday.....they have the freedom as consumers...what about the Japanese or other closed markets? Toyota Tundras are not better than American made trucks...I will say this, if someone comes to my house and is offering a service or a product for sale I ask them what type of automobile they drive, depending on their response will decide if they get my business. As I stated earlier, consumers have a choice in America and I choose to support American owned companies!

MAJ Baker

 

While made in the USA is a plus (verses assembled in the USA).... I also believe that a non-union auto workers are a big plus too.

 

I am not pro or con when it comes to Unions, however if Japan INC. purposely exploits their workers (like they do in Japan) then I have a problem.

Manufacturing by Japanese Companies in the US is fine, however I would just like to see more of those cars heading back across the ocean to their market!

Japanese vehicles are fine, I would just like to see a level playing field when it comes to import regulations. I cannot be convinced that Japan's market is as open as ours....an $85 Dremel drill made in the USA is over $500.00 in Japan, come on isn't that rediculous? Competition is good, I only want to see more in other countries.

 

heh not to diss ford trucks....but latest crash tests said that soupcan tundra was more safe in a wreck than an F-150.

Heh but heres something funny, i saw a 92-96 F-150 XL get rear ended by a civic, civic was totalled, i mean it was just busted up..oh what happened to the truck...the back bumper fell off. I wish i had a camera for that one.

 

Bah, toyota tundra's seem ok, cause I know a fella who has one and he used to brag bout it all the time (really annoying after a while) , this was when i had a 92' Hyundai Sonata GL, 2.0 L 4 cyl DOHC, make me jealous a lot making fun of my car and stuff, when i decided to get a truck, went and looked around, seen chevy's and dodge's, etc, couldn't afford a toyota ( to expensive for my blood plus i don't think they look the best) anyways ford was my savior, i went and looked at a 1991 f150 300 IL6 loaded with A/C and cruise very nice for $5,650 cdn, i was wanting to buy it, so i went and got my mechanic to take a look, the first thing the dealer said to my mechanic when we got there that the truck has transmission problems and that the bed has quite a bit of rust underneath, really peeved me cause he didn't tell me and he was already overpricing that truck, anyways i didn't buy it, but the dealer called me later that afternoon with a 95 f 150 that came in and he was trying to sell quick for someone, went and looked and fell in love, man what a nice looking/slow but it drives nice truck, and it was immaculate with the exception of rust on the tailgate and bad ball joints on the passenger side, and this truck was going on sale for 5,600 cdn, it was a deal, bought her withing the hour of first seeing her, i sorta went off topic with the tundra stuff, but what i'm trying to say is that i made one of the best decisions in my life to pick that truck.

 

see thats what im sayin, you get the 300-6 F-150, its the best truck ever.

 

Sopris , I think your wife would really like a Explorer Sport Trac . I recently purchased one and really like the thing . I've gone crusing with mine , gone hunting , towed my little tractor with it , hauled a little fire wood , gone on trips , to work everyday , took the girls to school and on field trips , gone for groceries , it doe's everything . It's comfortable on long trips and easy to clean up because it has a rubber mat in the floor instead of carpet . It has (all plastic) door panels with no cloth to mess up or stain . It's just a great little vehicle . It came with a lockable cover over the bed , on trips you don't have to put up with luggage in the passenger area . I like a vehicle with a good heater in the winter and on the coldest days , it gets good and toasty quick . It has plenty of leg room , arm room , and head room . I can only say one bad thing about this vehicle . The little detachable console bag is useless . It's not good for nothing , if you get one , get one with a real console in it . I hate that stupid little bag .It goe's to church , it go'es golfing and it looks good anywhere .

 

I think it is great that Toyota is employing american workers, how about sending some of those trucks and cars back to Japan?