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Old Jul 26, 2010 | 06:09 PM
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Question SCANNER TOOL COMPUTER HELP??

I am new to the site today. I hope to get time to list all 11 of my Fords with pics soon. I have several Fords with lots of mods. I am a huge Ford fan. Anyway, I am in need of an all around scan tool. I have a Landscape company and have my own shop with lift and tools. The problem is I need a good scan tool to read my codes and help me diagnose my diesel problems. I currently own the following: 2000 7.3, 2001 7.3, 2-2003 7.3, 2004 6.0, 2006 6.0, 2001 4.0 gas, 2004 5.4 gas, 2003 5.4 gas. I am tired of having to take my trucks to the dealer for diagnostics, it gets way to expensive to have them do the repairs when I have a mechanic to do it. Just need to know what is actually wrong when someting goes bad. Does anyone know of any scan tools that will diagnose all these trucks?
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Old Jul 26, 2010 | 07:34 PM
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depends how much you wanna pay? snap on has a very good one but its VERY pricey and the updates are not cheap either!
 
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Old Jul 26, 2010 | 07:46 PM
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AutoEnginuity with the Ford bundle is what I would recommend. It should cover all of those vehicles. It's not cheap and runs on a laptop. But saving a few trips to the dealer will pay for it.
 
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Old Jul 26, 2010 | 07:49 PM
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I suppose I would like to get a good tool as cheap as I can. I do understand that you pay for what you get. But with electronics these days that is anyones guess. You can get incredible items now for cheap. i just don't know anything about these tools to know what is a good buy or not. I was asking my mechanic today about the updates. If I get a scanner that can scan all my vehicles, do you need to do the annual updates if you don't plan on getting any newer year trucks?
 
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Old Jul 26, 2010 | 07:56 PM
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As far as I know, AE gives free software updates. I've not seen any indication that this is not the case. You can download the most current version from their web page.

I paid $359.97 for it from Riff Raff Diesel.

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I just look at it on AE. Looks good to me. Have you had any issues that you could not read with the scanner? How has it worked for you? It looks like they scan all the diesel codes but it also looked like they said in the facts section that it does not have everything you need for the diesels. It confused me a little. So I wrote them a message with a few questions. And it seems to have a great price.
 
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Old Jul 26, 2010 | 08:17 PM
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Ask about it the 6.0L section. Quite a few people down there use it. I think quite a few in the 7.3L section use it also.

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So far, I haven't had any problems with it. But I haven't used it a lot. I know there are some issues with Diesels, because earlier diesels weren't required to be entirely ODB-II compliant.

I do believe AE is about the best you can get though. The writers have worked hard on getting the diesel features right.

AE can access ALL the modules, most hand held readers can't do that. I've tested my fan clutch, adjusted my speedometer, read codes, read all the PID's (just for fun), etc. You can do a lot with it.
 
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Old Jul 26, 2010 | 08:22 PM
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Thanks David for taking the time to tell me about it. I have my mechanic researching them as we speak. We will most likely be ordering tomorrow. Hell, for the price, if it just reads my injectors it is worth the money.
Thanks again, Dustin Hanson
 
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Old Jul 26, 2010 | 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by dchamberlain
Ask about it the 6.0L section. Quite a few people down there use it. I think quite a few in the 7.3L section use it also.

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So far, I haven't had any problems with it. But I haven't used it a lot. I know there are some issues with Diesels, because earlier diesels weren't required to be entirely ODB-II compliant.

I do believe AE is about the best you can get though. The writers have worked hard on getting the diesel features right.

AE can access ALL the modules, most hand held readers can't do that. I've tested my fan clutch, adjusted my speedometer, read codes, read all the PID's (just for fun), etc. You can do a lot with it.
I recently bought this unit from AE with the Ford bundle, but I have never seen where to adjust speedo nor to read the PID's... Would sure love to learn more about the unit though as I have felt it was a little under developed for the cost.
 
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You read PID's from any of the Live Data screens, after you have connected.

To adjust the speedometer, select the ABS Module instead of the Enhanced Powertrain when connecting, then go to the Test OnBoard System screen. There will be a tire size adjustment there. Adjust the speedometer by changing the tire size.
 
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Old Jul 26, 2010 | 08:54 PM
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You read PID's from any of the Live Data screens, after you have connected.

To adjust the speedometer, select the ABS Module instead of the Enhanced Powertrain when connecting, then go to the Test OnBoard System screen. There will be a tire size adjustment there. Adjust the speedometer by changing the tire size.
Awesome on the speedo adjust, and I guess I was just unaware of the acronym PID, my apologies. What does PID stand for?
 
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Danged if I know. I think it might be Parameter Identification, but I don't know. Whatever it means, it's the bits of data that the computer knows, that it can report back via the OBD-II port. Like EOT is Engine Oil Temperature, ECT is Engine Coolant Temperature, etc.

There are 100's of them. And not just the Enhanced Powertrain (PCM) module has them. All the other modules have PID's as well.
 
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Originally Posted by DPHANSON
I just look at it on AE. Looks good to me. Have you had any issues that you could not read with the scanner? How has it worked for you? It looks like they scan all the diesel codes but it also looked like they said in the facts section that it does not have everything you need for the diesels. It confused me a little. So I wrote them a message with a few questions. And it seems to have a great price.
AE will pull whatever you need off the diesels. There are no cheap scanners that will pull all the codes on the 7.3 since its not fully OBDII compliant. The one thing that comes with AE (speed tracer program) wont work with the diesels since they lack certain sensors needed to figure out the numbers, but all that program is is a dyno program.

Its definitely worth the price. I went with the domestic bundle since my mom has a chevy suburban and my brother has a 5.9 dodge. The domestic bundle covers Ford, Chevy products and Chrysler products.
 
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Old Jul 27, 2010 | 10:58 AM
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PID = Parameter ID. It's a number, pointing to a location in the computer's memory. The term "PID" has come to mean anything you can read or write in the computer

One thing to keep in mind is, if you buy the "Ford package" it'll only ever read Ford stuff. Updating/Upgrading to read GM or Chrysler can/will be $'s.
 
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Old Jul 27, 2010 | 11:28 AM
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One thing to keep in mind is, if you buy the "Ford package" it'll only ever read Ford stuff. Updating/Upgrading to read GM or Chrysler can/will be $'s.
Thats the exact reason why I spent a little more now. It would've been a whole lot more to upgrade down the road.
 
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