A New Ranger?
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A New Ranger?
This morning on CNBC, Alan Mulally was promoting the new Explorer and while discussing Ford's extensive line-up of new and upcoming introductions mentioned the new Ranger. This was news to me and he didn't elaborate.
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Lots of talk and speculation of what is going to be the next version of the Ranger. Most likely is the worldwide one. The order books are open right now for the few of the 2011 they are going to make
http://www.motortrend.com/new_cars/0...ger/index.html
Might look something like these pictures.
ford ranger 2012 - Google Search
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http://www.motortrend.com/new_cars/0...ger/index.html
Might look something like these pictures.
ford ranger 2012 - Google Search
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It looks very cool, but my only concern is the possible lack of a V6 option. With the new 3.7L in the Mustang and the 3.5L EcoBoost, I actually think that the current platform would be great if they replaced the 3.0L and the 4.0L with these new V6's.
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I was really suprised to hear that the new explorer will have a turbocharged 4 cylinder as standaard until i heard that it would put out something like 267 HP. That's pretty strong for a turbo 2.0 liter engine.
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Peak horsepower doesn't mean squat. Torque is where it's at! The much-hyped Marauder failed because even though it claimed 300hp, it lacked the torque for everyday street driving. It is that 'seat-of-the-pants' feel on acceleration that you want and need to sell power...
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Pretty sure that one of the head exec's at Ford said that in the next five years, 75% of the cars/trucks sold are going to be tubro'd. The car manufacuters in this country really fell behind in not developing the small, efficent motors even 40 years ago. I saw the torque curve of that motor going in the SHO and it jumped right up and stayed flat. Things are changing.
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Even with all of these motors that can put out a lot of power and torque, I still think that people will want that V6 option, which from what I have read sounds like it will be dropped in the new Ranger.
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What people may want will be of little consequence..
The manufacturers have to achieve a CAFE rating of 35.5 MPG in a very few years and a big ol' V-6 that gets less than 20 MPG isn't going to cut it.
I wouldn't be surprised to find that you will only be able to get a V-6 in an F-150 and a V-8 in a Superduty very shortly.
Keep in mind that the 4.0L V-6 is only good for 207 HP & 238 Ft./ Lbs and is a very old design. This new engine will probably kick its butt...
The manufacturers have to achieve a CAFE rating of 35.5 MPG in a very few years and a big ol' V-6 that gets less than 20 MPG isn't going to cut it.
I wouldn't be surprised to find that you will only be able to get a V-6 in an F-150 and a V-8 in a Superduty very shortly.
Keep in mind that the 4.0L V-6 is only good for 207 HP & 238 Ft./ Lbs and is a very old design. This new engine will probably kick its butt...
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Here's some more info I just found in Autoblog...
2011 Ford Explorer puts four-cylinder EcoBoost engine above V6 in pecking order — Autoblog
"...For the Explorer, Ford is currently quoting the same 237 hp, although officials tell us that the version used in the Explorer and Edge will have different calibrations from the Euro edition, at least in part to meet U.S. emissions standards. Despite its small displacement, the four produces 27 hp more than the prior Explorer's ancient 4.0-liter V6.
The V6 will actually be the standard engine and the higher mileage turbo-four will be optional.The really important characteristic of these downsized engines is the torque that's made possible by turbocharging and direct injection. The charge cooling effect of the direct injection allows Ford to run 16 psi of boost, which helps the 2.0-liter engine generate 250 pound-feet of torque from 1,750-4,000 rpm. The old 4.0-liter peaked with 254 lb-ft at 3,700 rpm, but didn't have the flat torque curve of the new smaller engine...."
That's a pretty flat and wide torque curve and should outperform the 4.0 in just about any application and get better mileage to boot!
2011 Ford Explorer puts four-cylinder EcoBoost engine above V6 in pecking order — Autoblog
"...For the Explorer, Ford is currently quoting the same 237 hp, although officials tell us that the version used in the Explorer and Edge will have different calibrations from the Euro edition, at least in part to meet U.S. emissions standards. Despite its small displacement, the four produces 27 hp more than the prior Explorer's ancient 4.0-liter V6.
The V6 will actually be the standard engine and the higher mileage turbo-four will be optional.The really important characteristic of these downsized engines is the torque that's made possible by turbocharging and direct injection. The charge cooling effect of the direct injection allows Ford to run 16 psi of boost, which helps the 2.0-liter engine generate 250 pound-feet of torque from 1,750-4,000 rpm. The old 4.0-liter peaked with 254 lb-ft at 3,700 rpm, but didn't have the flat torque curve of the new smaller engine...."
That's a pretty flat and wide torque curve and should outperform the 4.0 in just about any application and get better mileage to boot!
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I am talking about completely dropping the 3.0L and the 4.0L. If they can at least put the new 3.7L in the new Ranger as an option, I would defiantly get another Ranger. And that 3.7L has gotten up to an average of 44.5 mpg during Ford's 1000 Lap Challenge earlier this summer.
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Don't get me wrong, the 4.0L V6 is great, but fuel economy is lacking. If perhaps the new 3.7L V6 is a Ranger option then I am going to seriously consider getting a new Ranger sometime after I graduate and get a job,
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The Ford 4.0 dates back to the early 60's and has lasted far past its time. Drive a 4.0 Mustang and then try a new one with the 3.7 - its a world of difference with far more horsepower and better fuel economy.
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Though the 3.0L lacked power in the Ranger as well as Taurus, it was a very durable engine the gave excellent fuel economy for it's size and lack of sophistication. I really like the old 3.0L engine because of this and they were very easy to service. Every Taurus or Ranger that I've had would get close to 30mpg on the highway cosistantly. The only downside was that if you needed more than 70 mph and were running the A/C it was like trying to accelerate with a restrictor plate engine.
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As a point of reference with the new motors, I could get 26-28 mpg on the interstate with my 4.6 Mustang, 300 hp. I now can get 20-22 with 550 hp at the same speed with the blown 4.6. Ford has things in the wind with their motor designs. The trucks are going to have to be a lot aerodynamic, take a look at what the Rangers look like in Austrialia. Hope the future is good.
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