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Old Jul 18, 2010 | 09:33 PM
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Need help with timing/dist curve

Hello everyone, I am having trouble getting my timing set properly on my 78 F-150 351M 2bbl. I have it set where it runs decent but I have trouble driving up to the mountains. My engine is a crate motor and has a new distributer in it. The elevation where I live is about 5,000 feet and I have a steady 16" of vac. I have tried adjusting my 2 year old carb and eliminated egr and other emissions, but still have no luck. I have my vac advance to the ported side of the carb. Could someone give me some advice. Thanks.
 
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Old Jul 18, 2010 | 09:42 PM
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Where is your total timing set at? is this an auto or manual tranny? what's your gear ratio and tire size? need more info...
 
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Old Jul 18, 2010 | 10:06 PM
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Timing is set at about 11degrees initial, gear ratio is 3.50, 4 speed manual tranny and 33" tires. It drives perfect around town but when I start climbing and the engine gets under load it begins to loose power and sputter.
 
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Old Jul 18, 2010 | 10:15 PM
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I'm no expert, but I would think carb would need to be re-jetted for high altitude???
 
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Old Jul 18, 2010 | 10:18 PM
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Where can I get info and parts on rejetting? I also was wondering why oil shoots up out of the dipstick when I hit high rpm? My pcv valves are new and plumbed in to the air breather.
 
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Old Jul 18, 2010 | 10:50 PM
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Timing is set at about 11degrees initial, gear ratio is 3.50, 4 speed manual tranny and 33" tires. It drives perfect around town but when I start climbing and the engine gets under load it begins to loose power and sputter.
Do you know where your total timing is set? i'm assuming somewhere between 32-36 degrees, your pcv should be plumbed to manifold vacuum, 3.50 gears would be better suited to a 31" tire and vice versa 33" tires to a 3.73 gear as far as climbing steep grades anyways, this almost sounds like a fuel starvation issue though, weak fuel pump, worn cam eccentric, plugged filter, etc.
 
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Old Jul 18, 2010 | 10:56 PM
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I will replumb the pcv valves and I have an inline fuel guage that reads between 8 and 9 psi.
 
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Old Jul 18, 2010 | 11:14 PM
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Does your distributor have an adjustable vacuum advance cannister? if so it will accept a 3/32" allen wrench thru the vacuum port and allow you to "tune" it for your specific needs and change the distributors curve, what size reluctor arms are you running inside the distributor, 10L, 13L, 15L?
 
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Old Jul 18, 2010 | 11:33 PM
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Yes it does have an adjustable but im not sure what size arms I have. Where can I find the size?
 
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Old Jul 19, 2010 | 02:38 AM
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Yes it does have an adjustable but im not sure what size arms I have. Where can I find the size?
Pull the breaker plate in your distributor and it's stamped right on the arms....
Duraspark_distributor_recurve_instructions_index
 
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Old Jul 19, 2010 | 07:02 PM
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Thanks for the info, I will get back to you guys after I make the changes.
 
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Old Jul 19, 2010 | 07:31 PM
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sounds like you need to adjust jets if its just acting up in the mountains. Air is thinner. How big of an altitude change are we talkin?
 
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Old Jul 23, 2010 | 12:15 AM
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About 2,500 feet in about 20 miles. But my problem begins as soon as I begin the climb. The truck begins to get sluggish and gradually slows down.
 
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Old Jul 23, 2010 | 11:09 AM
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That sounds like you are running out of gear.

You probably need a lower (higher numerically) gear if you are running 33" tires and climbing a mountain like that.
 
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