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Old 07-17-2010, 05:21 PM
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Love the irony here.
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Wouldn't it be easier just to put click able links to the other which would be better quetions threads.
 
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I think the problem is the math skills.
When you are buying new and plan to drive 5000 a year for 2-3 years, than the few thousands dollars more for diesel option is questionable, even knowing you will get your money back at the sale.
When you are buying used, like I did and plan to drive it for over 100,000 miles more, you don't need better math skills than 2nd grader to figure out what is good for you
 
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Not to start a WAR, BUT,Go With a Gasoline engine, it will be cheaper on maints.
the small diesel engines in smaller trucks, are prone to a lot of maint, parts are expensive, good techs are hard to come by on the smaller diesels engines, I have worked on a lot of Diesel engines, Cats, Cummins, Detroit Diesels, IH, John Deere, Case, Kubota, to name a few, and smaller diesel engines in most cases, dont hold up very well,So, in a smaller truck, F350 F450 and down, i would use gasoline, I KNOW there are some that have gotten great service from their PS diesels, but its not the norm. Just look at this site and others on the PS diesels and you will see what I Mean, I Know I have upset some PS users, Sorry about that
 
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If you want them to hear you comming go diesel.

If you want to sneak up on them get a V-10.

No seriously if you really don't need the diesel power then gas is the best option.
Both the diesel and gas are good trucks, the cost factor is the decideing factor now between the diesel and V-10. Usually a diesel is several thousand dollars more now. Usually to the tune of about 3000.00. Maybe even more. Most all the 6.0's have the problems worked out of them as most all the V-10 have exhaust manifold studs repaired and plug thread issues repaired.
 
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After four Cummins powered Rams and a Hemi powered 2500HD, I opted for the F250 with 5.4L for my work truck. It's also our tow vehicle for our 8500~lb 5th wheel and often our family car. I have no regrets. I can't think for anyone else but the F250 5.4L works best for me.
 
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We are soon going to be trying to outfit a new crew with a 250 pickup instead of the box van (trying to find a way to avoid the DOT hassles of the heavier truck). My business partner, who deals more with the trucks and maintenance stuff, wants to try out a gas truck vs the PSD. His argument is that #1, we are having a tough time finding reliable mechanics to work on our PSD trucks. We have access to several good 'gasser' mechanics. #2, he feels that it is much cheaper to fix or replace the motors or trannys on the gas trucks vs the PSD trucks.

My worry is that we are pretty tough on our trucks and I wonder how the gas trucks overall will holdup over time. In either case we'd be loooking at trucks in the '99 - 2003 year range.
What are you looking to spend on the truck and what configuration do you need? (SC, CC and etc.)
 
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We have access to several good 'gasser' mechanics. #2, he feels that it is much cheaper to fix or replace the motors or trannys on the gas trucks vs the PSD trucks

That is a really bad phrase to use when talking about Fords.
 
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These discussions turn sucky quickly it seems. To just answer the OP with an opinion I'll say that for your situation (business) with multiple vehicles I'd get a gasser with V10. The reason being that when diesels do get age on them they can become maintenance intensive. And a lot times when there is a problem diagnosing them can be the hardest part. You yourself said it's hard to find a good diesel mechanic, and it is for light duty trucks. It sucks but taking a diesel to the dealer can be painful because thier own mechanics have a hard time with them. But you take a gasser in there and you are more apt to get the problem fixed the first time and probably cheaper. This is all assuming that you are buying something used and out of warranty. If you're buying new and will have them until the warranty and then trade for new again, then it's up to you to decide. The diesel option on the new ones is so much more I couldn't say if the cost is worth it anymore.

Having said all that, I personally would stick with my 7.3 PSD but that's because I do all the maintenance myself and consider myself more capable than most mechanics I could take it to, and I don't even really know that much...
 
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Originally Posted by SunBum
I'll try to make this quick. Thanks in advance for your thoughts.

We have several 7.3 PSD trucks (mostly in the form of 350 or 450 box vans). Our crews typically consist of 3 or 4 guys, their stuff, and a trailer (maybe 7K or 8K lbs). These trucks run maybe 200 - 300 miles up the road at the beginning of the week, then run around to different jobs in the area during the week, then back home 200 - 300 miles.

We are soon going to be trying to outfit a new crew with a 250 pickup instead of the box van (trying to find a way to avoid the DOT hassles of the heavier truck). My business partner, who deals more with the trucks and maintenance stuff, wants to try out a gas truck vs the PSD. His argument is that #1, we are having a tough time finding reliable mechanics to work on our PSD trucks. We have access to several good 'gasser' mechanics. #2, he feels that it is much cheaper to fix or replace the motors or trannys on the gas trucks vs the PSD trucks.

My worry is that we are pretty tough on our trucks and I wonder how the gas trucks overall will holdup over time. In either case we'd be loooking at trucks in the '99 - 2003 year range.

So, what do you think? Thanks again for the advice.
It looks like you will be putting 40,000 miles a year on this truck. I've had many Gassers and Diesel Trucks. I've put over 250,000 miles on 3 gassers I've did the same with 3 Diesels. From my experience anything over 30,000 miles a year the Diesels are less expensive to operate. That is my experience with them. Good luck finding a 7.3 CC LB that has not already been beat to death though.
 
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Old 07-18-2010, 11:25 AM
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Thanks for the helpful info

You guys make some good points. I think we will try to find a gas truck and see how it works for us.
 
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