Notices
1973 - 1979 F-100 & Larger F-Series Trucks Discuss the Dentsides Ford Truck
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: Moser

Flat Black Rustoleum Paint Job

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jul 15, 2010 | 07:49 PM
  #1  
zerfetzen's Avatar
zerfetzen
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 164
Likes: 4
Flat Black Rustoleum Paint Job

Has anyone done this with a roller or a foam brush? I tried it on the side of the bed with a 4" foam brush, and I later could see vertical lines where I brushed, plain as day.

For kicks, I wet sanded over the brush marks, and it went away, and you couldn't tell I used a brush, but it took on a shine to it, which of course I don't want because I'm going for flat.

I gave up and tried Rustoleum's Hunter Green, which comes out medium green, not dark, and my heart's just not in it.

There are a lot of websites and videos showing how to do Rustoleum with a roller or brush, but I've only found shiny paint.

Any tips here on how to do flat black and make it look decent, not like it was rattle canned? Thanks.
 
Reply
Old Jul 15, 2010 | 08:23 PM
  #2  
hp246's Avatar
hp246
Laughing Gas
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 811
Likes: 4
Sounds like the $100 paint job that was written about a couple years ago in Car Craft or Hot Rod. The used Rustoleum, brushed each coat then sanded like hell. As I recall it took about 7 coats of paint with color sanding after each coat. Took a couple weeks to let set between each coat after letting it set up.

Some guys are using a flat black tractor paint sold by John Deere, although I understand someone is making it for John Deere and also sells under the home label for quite a bit less.

You could probably buy a decent BC/CC system with a flattening agent in the clear coat for a couple hundred bucks from one of the mail order discount paint houses.

I've used these guys for supplies and have been quite happy: http://www.smartshoppersinc.com/
 
Reply
Old Jul 15, 2010 | 08:59 PM
  #3  
Blown 331's Avatar
Blown 331
Moderator
20 Year Member
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 1,779
Likes: 3
From: Waterloo IL
Club FTE Gold Member
If the rustoleum hunter green is not dark enough for you then just mix a little rustoleum black in with it. I've actually done this exact thing and it worked out great. It turned out a little olive green looking (but dark), I think if you throw a little blue in there it would be a pretty decent color.
 
Reply
Old Jul 15, 2010 | 09:02 PM
  #4  
CHELLIE's Avatar
CHELLIE
Senior User
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 286
Likes: 0
From: hesperia calif.
You have to Spray paint on, to have it look decent, I belive you can get a paint thinner for rustoleum to thin and spray the paint on with.



http://www.harborfreight.com/air-too...gun-47016.html

http://www.harborfreight.com/air-too...sor-90234.html
 
Reply
Old Jul 15, 2010 | 09:06 PM
  #5  
zerfetzen's Avatar
zerfetzen
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 164
Likes: 4
I really like the Rustoleum idea and am bound and determined to make it work.

If I mix my paint, say 50/50 Hunter Green and Gloss Black, that would probably be a shade I like. But will I be able to get the mixture right every time? A year from now, if I get a ding and want to redo that spot, will a 5% error in mixture look like hell?

Otherwise, it seems like shiny Rustoleum is awesome, and so easy to work with.

Is there a way to do flat black but not have lines where you did it in sections?

If not, I think I'll try the 50/50 hunter green / gloss black route.
 
Reply
Old Jul 15, 2010 | 09:08 PM
  #6  
zerfetzen's Avatar
zerfetzen
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 164
Likes: 4
That's what I thought, flat colors probably have to be sprayed. Thanks.
 
Reply
Old Jul 15, 2010 | 09:22 PM
  #7  
Blown 331's Avatar
Blown 331
Moderator
20 Year Member
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 1,779
Likes: 3
From: Waterloo IL
Club FTE Gold Member
I think the 50/50 hunter green and gloss black will be too dark. I'm speaking from experience here. It will most likey look totally black. And you should be able to get the mixture exactly the same every time if you use a measuring pail. Personally I'd try 75% hunter green, 20% black and 5% blue. You'll see what I mean about not as much black and maybe some blue once you experiment. I've never done the blue thing but I think it would turn out better.
 
Reply
Old Jul 16, 2010 | 07:32 AM
  #8  
zerfetzen's Avatar
zerfetzen
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 164
Likes: 4
You may be right, and your suggested mixture sounds interesting and worth a try. Keep in mind that even though Rustoleum calls it hunter green, and even though the color looks dark on the label, the actual color is a medium green, maybe even light. A neighbor walked by, complemented it, and asked if it was apple green.

That's why I was thinking it needs that much black to get it to actual hunter green. I had a '79 dentside in the '80's in high school that was dark jade metallic or whatever the dark green color is, and I loved it.

For what it's worth, I tried Rustoleum's Royal Blue (I think it was), because the label looked like a darker blue, and dark blue is the truck's original color. I got it on there, and it was baby blue or sky blue. The actual color wasn't just a little bit lighter, it was a lot lighter. I don't know what Rustoleum's problem is with advertising and naming their colors.

I saw someone on here do their truck Safety Red, and it looked awesome, and like Rustoleum got the color right, so I guess their problem is only with their darker colors.

Their flat black looked great, if I only knew how to apply it right. Who knows, maybe I'll give up on the foam brush method that looks so great with shiny colors and spray bomb it flat. I really like dark green, but flat black is preference #1.
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

 Michael S. Palmer
story-1

Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalytic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

 Verdad Gallardo
story-2

Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

 Joe Kucinski
story-3

2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

 Brett Foote
story-4

Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

 Brett Foote
story-6

Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-7

Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

 Joe Kucinski
story-9

2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

 Brett Foote
Old Jul 16, 2010 | 07:37 AM
  #9  
zerfetzen's Avatar
zerfetzen
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 164
Likes: 4
FYI:

This isn't my truck of course, but here's a picture of what shade of green Rustoleum's hunter green is:

Jeff's Bronco Graveyard - Reader's Ride #6425: 1984 Ford F-Series Pickup

(notice his truck is in the shade. My neighbor's right...get it in the sun and it looks like an apple)

...and here's the label for Rustoleum:

RustOleum.com

I don't know how to activate the links on here, but they can be copy/pasted into a browser.
 

Last edited by zerfetzen; Jul 16, 2010 at 07:39 AM. Reason: sun vs. shade
Reply
Old Jul 17, 2010 | 11:20 AM
  #10  
coz's Avatar
coz
Junior User
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 72
Likes: 0
I painted mine with john deere blitz black. I sprayed it with a 19.00 harbor freight gun. It came out awesome. I have never painted before and it looks like a pro did it. Total cost about 90.00.
 
Reply
Old Jul 17, 2010 | 11:37 AM
  #11  
AK FORD GUY's Avatar
AK FORD GUY
Cargo Master
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 2,587
Likes: 47
From: Eagle River, AK
Originally Posted by coz
I painted mine with john deere blitz black. I sprayed it with a 19.00 harbor freight gun. It came out awesome. I have never painted before and it looks like a pro did it. Total cost about 90.00.
That looks great.

If I can find the Blitz Black up here, that's what is going on my 68 F100.
 
Reply
Old Jul 17, 2010 | 11:52 AM
  #12  
Blown 331's Avatar
Blown 331
Moderator
20 Year Member
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 1,779
Likes: 3
From: Waterloo IL
Club FTE Gold Member
Since it's a John Deere color just get it from a John Deere dealer.

Coz- that looks great. Did you do the body work or get nice parts or what?
 
Reply
Old Jul 17, 2010 | 11:54 AM
  #13  
FordmanShane's Avatar
FordmanShane
Elder User
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 503
Likes: 0
From: nor cal
Originally Posted by coz
I painted mine with john deere blitz black. I sprayed it with a 19.00 harbor freight gun. It came out awesome. I have never painted before and it looks like a pro did it. Total cost about 90.00.
second, that paint job looks hella nice
 
Reply
Old Jul 17, 2010 | 12:10 PM
  #14  
AK FORD GUY's Avatar
AK FORD GUY
Cargo Master
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 2,587
Likes: 47
From: Eagle River, AK
Originally Posted by Blown 331
Since it's a John Deere color just get it from a John Deere dealer.

Coz- that looks great. Did you do the body work or get nice parts or what?
The dealer up here does not stock it and wants to charge an arm and a let to get it sent up here. We'll see, I have a bunch of time before I get to that step.
 
Reply
Old Jul 17, 2010 | 12:22 PM
  #15  
hp246's Avatar
hp246
Laughing Gas
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 811
Likes: 4
Originally Posted by AK FORD GUY
The dealer up here does not stock it and wants to charge an arm and a let to get it sent up here. We'll see, I have a bunch of time before I get to that step.
There are some tractor forums with John Deere dealers as sponsors. Sorry I don't have the links in my computer anymore, but you should be able to Google them. They advertise competitive pricing on parts. I'd bet they would ship you the paint you need reasonably if they're used to dealing online.
 
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:13 AM.

story-0
10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

Slideshow: the best gifts for dads & grads

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-06-02 21:45:57


VIEW MORE
story-1
Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalytic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

Slideshow: Called the Fortress, the 850-horsepower pickup combines Raptor underpinnings with military-inspired features, survival equipment, and a starting price of $285,000.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-30 18:33:59


VIEW MORE
story-2
Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

Slideshow: 10 most expensive Ford trucks ever sold on Bring a Trailer.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:24:34


VIEW MORE
story-3
2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

Here's everything that has changed for the latest model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-27 16:17:28


VIEW MORE
story-4
Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

Slideshow: Top 10 Ford truck tragedies.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-18 19:34:33


VIEW MORE
story-5
AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

And it might be even better than that.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-18 19:26:42


VIEW MORE
story-6
Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

Slideshow: Does lowering an F-150 Lobo RUIN the ride quality?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-18 19:20:37


VIEW MORE
story-7
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

Slideshow: Ford's bizarre fishing-themed Explorer concept has resurfaced after spending decades largely forgotten.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:07:46


VIEW MORE
story-8
10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

Slideshow: The 10 best Ford truck engines we miss the most.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 13:09:47


VIEW MORE
story-9
2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

Slideshow: first look at the 810 hp 2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road!

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-12 12:50:07


VIEW MORE