Hey I forgot to ask... if your planning to make 400-500 horsies with your setup you do know that the tranny won't last too long with all the hp and tq going thru it right?

 

Ohh... I thought that I was going to have to do both get a matched setup, AND tune.
I found a setup with 30lb injectors, and a 70mm mass air meter that the seller 'says' that they are calibrated. I'm not a big fan of used parts. I'm just unsure if the 70mm for a fox body era mustang will fit in place of the stock mas. Anyone?

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Added one of these little beauties.
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I know I'm not going to make 500, but can't a guy dream?

 

That's great and ofcourse a guy can dream. That's what make you start a project .

I dream of a 351 with a twin-turbo setup making 450hp and a mated to a E4OD/4R70W upgraded tranny with that JET chip capable of withstanding 600 mad ponies. Now isn't that such a huge dream?

 

The only way to do it... Is to OVER do it!!!

 

Couple more questions if possible.

I know that my wiring skills are good, its what I do. But, I would like some opnions on starting the truck (motor break-in). Do you think I should break-in on the SD system: I know it works- cleaned the injectors, flushed the lines, changed o-rings, new fuel filter, on and on... Or should I take the chance on breaking-in on the new (to me and motor) MAF: I know that I checked and double checked everything on my research- have all of my wiring ready to be rewired, will be recieving the 30lb injectors and mass air meter in a few days.
The last thing I want to do is junk the cam!!!
My wife and friends call me a bit indecisive, I perfer informed and cautious. Any advice would be great! Even if you call me an Id10t, its cool.

 

Well as Conanski said you will NOT get the desired results because ECU is calibrated for puny 19lb injectors. I suggest you wait for the complete MAF conversion. Trust me when it fires up your going to get the chills and then knowing that computer is calibrated for medium 30lb. injectors... your going to think it's cold outside.Just think about all that air ready to be mixed with all the fuel that 30lb. injectors can deliver and then combustion happens in the cylinder and you get your mad ponies released. Hang in there buddy.

 

The TweecerRT is what I have but the Moates Quarterhorse is newer, better, and cheaper. The Quarterhorse requires a seperate software package and I strongly suggest Binary Editor as that is what I'm now using.

You can't use the SD computer once you have applied the MAF conversion wiring, so this is an all or nothing affair. Engine breakin or more correctly cam breakin only requires about 2000rpm and that's well within the capabilities of the 19lbers so it's probably the way to go, I don't recommend doing anything besides that however.. like don't drive the vehicle at all because the SD computer has no way of adapting to the loaded fuel requirements of that motor. Your transmission is also going to need some serious upgrades to handle this motor, a valvebody shift kit and high volume oil cooler are manditory here.. not an option.

 

No, once you have a tuner you don't need or want matched components you want parts you can find the corresponding specs for.. which would be the flow rates on the injectors and the trasnfer function for the MAF meter. With these specs in hand you simply open up your tuner software and plug in the numbers, then the EEC has accurate data to base it's calculation on.. which is why this method delivers better results than "calibrated" injector/MAF trickery.

 

I bought a Ford kit and it wasn't cheap about $1100 at the time. It's a cinch to install though the harness just overlays the stock wiring and there is a piggyback connector that goes between the EEC and factory harness connector.

 

The World heads aren't spectacular performers so even 400hp is a bit optimistic, DesktopDyno reports about 360hp with a fairly big cam. One thing that hasn't been mentioned here is what intake you have on the motor right now, is it the stock 5.8 intake? If so that will further restrict HP output to under 300 potentially.. but it'll make monsterous TQ.

 

Listen to Conanski, he is the pro here lol. And yeah I told him about the tranny having to be upgraded because it won't last long with all that torque going thru it. Thanks for the name of the Tuner Conanski.

 

Working swing shifts back to back sucks some times. And I can't seem to get on ford-trucks from my phone for some reason!

Anyway, thanks for the advice. I'm probally going to be firing it this friday or saturday (breakin). I'll try to put up a video. Just ordered the 30's, the ecu, and the tuner, coming soon. Just recieved the MAF air box etc, waiting for everything so it can all go on together.

One last question, I have the Jet tranny programmer. (Link in previous post) The people that I talked to said that it would do as good, if not better than a normal 'shift kit', becuase I could change it was needed. Was I mislead? I know that the Jet mod ups the line pressure.

I did upgrade the tranny cooler (B&M 70266), and added a remote filter (B&M 80277) with a homemade magnet attachment. They sell some real strong magnet 'tape' at the wholeseller I use for work, wrapped it around the filter. Do you think that will sufice, or should I have gone to a bigger cooler?

I ended up putting on the Edelbrock 3881 truck setup. I know that I should have gone to a 'mustang' type; but I needed an intake, and this dude I know needed the money. It was dirt cheap, never installed, and powder coated! Lower- gloss black. Upper- satin titanium. Anyway, not only is it a truck and torque is good, but my buddy needed some help. So win win I guess. If it doesn't workout, I still helped a buddy.

 

Also, the tranny has about 50k on it. Ford reman, from Ford, with all of the updates 2 years ago. Not cheap, and not something I want to do again anytime soon. I also over change the fluid. I don't know, is that good or bad? I added a drain plug just for that reason.

 

Problem with the Jet chip is you can't use it and a tuner at the same time since they both plug into the same port on the EEC, otherwise it looks like you have a solid transmission.

The Edelbrock Truck intake has more potential than the stock piece for sure but a stroker doesn't need help to make TQ and those extra long runners become restrictive pretty quickly. My suggestion would be to pick up a Typhoon upper at some point to replace the Eddy truck upper, it's a copy of the Performer that usually goes for about 1/2 the price.