I have the same owners manual...and I bought the truck new it came with (1965 F100 2WD 352).

Look at the capacity chart in the owners manual...it says 5 quarts...but notice the tiny asterisk *

Bottom of page...it says * SIX QUARTS with a filter change.

Is your trucks oil pan the original? Is your trucks engine oil dipstick the original?

45 years have passed by, so who knows what may have been transpired.

 

NumberDummy,
You have a big powerful weapon to end this. Did the FE ever have a 4qt oil pan? If so what was it used on?

 

I haven't the slightest idea, nor do I care, because...

Nothing is gonna end this discussion, even if I passed out a million bucks to everyone that has argued the point, it still wouldn't solve anything.

People are driving ancient rolling piles of misery that have had more parts swapped around on, than Carter has little liver pills.

The fact of the matter is...people can argue left and right, but there is no way to get around what the owners manual sez...if people had one, and those that do would only open their peepers WIDE...and see that tiny asterisk *

* SIX QUARTS with filter change.

 

My point being ND if no FE ever came with a 4 qt pan this argument would be ended. I had a car once that called for 5 qts of oil. I was way above that on the dipstick but I dont think that was the cars fault as it had a GM yellow dipstick in it.

If no FE ever came with a 4qt pan which with a filter would call for 5qts this argument is over. Technically right is the best kinda right, because anything else is wrong.
Trying to help you out is all. You should care. Or if your offering I will take $100,000. A million is just to damn much!

 

I have been following this all the way up to this last post. Now I'll pass on what I have noticed. ND is right that the owner's manual has that little * at the top for oil capacities. My 67 Park Lane manual say 5 quarts (including filter) exactly like that. Looking at the oil pans as I had the trucks and Park Lanes old pans in the garage after putting new pans on. The truck pan is somewhat deeper than the Park Lane's 410 FE which could easily account for an extra quart. I looked today as I had the picture in my mind that the 410 was shallower and it was. Of course, just an observation of the pans "I" had...

 

By any chance is their a part number for the oil dipstick/tube.
I recently bought a 67 f100 with a 352. There is no tube it has been plugged. Thanks

 

Awhile back, I gave my last 1965 truck owners manual to Randy (37 Ford Guy), as his manual was missing.

When I handed it to him, I showed him the page that lists the capacities and pointed out the asterisk * 6 quarts with a filter change!
Of course there are part numbers. Passenger Car 352 engine block same as F100/350, but the oil pans aren't the same. Car uses a different oil pan, has a different location for oil dipstick tube/dipstick.

These parts are specific to car or truck only. Where is the plugged hole located? There are two possible locations. If 352 is original to the truck, car hole will be plugged off. Truck dipstick/tube located elsewhere.

 

It is plugged toward the front on the engine on the Driver side I will put a picture up for you to see. It is in my album you can see the picture there. Thanks

 

.....and he'll never let me forget it....



You'll notice the asterisk* applies to "Approximate Capacity." Actually, I think the "real capacity" is about 5.5 quarts with a filter change. I know that on mine, 6 qts will over fill it by 1/2 qt and 5 qts makes it 1/2 qt low. When I change the oil & filter I usually put in 5 qts then drive it until it goes to the "add" mark and add 1 qt. To each his own....

 

Now if your oil filter is mounts vertical I could see it holding the "sixth quart" because the oil filter roughly holds a quart and it wouldn't drain out when the engine is off. But I think most are mounted horizontal and the oil would drain back in the pan and give you a full reading on your dipstick with five quart.

 

Oil should not drain out of filter. It has a one way valve.

This oil pan thing was discussed on the FE site some time back. ALL 'TRUCKS', if I remember correctly, use 6qts - be it V8 or 6. Some cars also use 6 qts but most use 5. THus the asterisk I believe. Cars have limited room for the extra oil. I used to have both pans - one from a truck and one from a car, Galaxie if I remember correctly, setting on my shelf. Setting next to each other, you could see the difference.

In our trucks (which I believe we are talking about) = 5qts in pan, 1qt in filter. If not, your pan or motor has been changed. LIKE MINE.

I have a CAR motor in my truck w/a car oil pan. It would be full at 5qts but I have an adaptor to a two qt set up. With two qts and the amount in the two lines going to them, it takes about 6.5+ qts.

Like Bill said, who knows what changes have been made over that many yrs. I do know there are #s on my dip stick in the motor in my truck. #s also on the 428 in the shed. If I get time, I will check the #s on both and post them.

I also use the "Quick Oil Drain Valve" and have for 18 +yrs. Works perfect.

AND YES, there was a motor that use only 4 qts, ALSO if I remember correctly from that thread. Since I'm not really interested in spending hrs looking for it, your on your on...........;o)

Course I could just be full of crap since - well, I'm not saying.
NOW YOU KIDS PLAY NICE...............

 

In reality putting 6 qts. in isn't going to hurt a thing as the crank won't get near it. I saw someone, on a Mopar forum, fill up his 440 oil pan just to experiment off the car. It took 8 qt.s just to reach the top. So put 6 qts. in and be done with it. You'll have 1 qt. in the filter and a couple of qts. circulating around with the engine running given the FE trait of lots of oil up in the valve train. Tomorrow I'll take my spare 302 pan and see how many qts. of liquid it holds just for the fun of it.

 

Actually, in my truck, it's reached the point where it doesn't matter whether I put 5 or 6 qts in it cause it's going to be down to 4 qts very soon. That's part of why I'm swapping in a fuel injected 5.0 before long. The old 352 still runs great but it's sucking down some serious oil plus it's always sucked down some serious gas!

 

Not all available oil filters have a anti-drainback valve in them. Cheep hastings and fram orange filters do not. While most do unless you have a vertical filter as on a SB chevy, (I have only done 1 FE oil change and cannot recall filter orientation.) you filter will drain the oil back into the pan slowly leading to noisy lifters on startup.

Wix, Motorcraft, Fram Tough Gaurd, and some others I have seen have an antidrainback valve that prevents this from happining. I used the cheep frams for years with no probloms and now use the Motorcrafts as I can get them cheep at wallfart.

 

1965/76 F100/350 FE's should use the horizontal oil filter adapter. 1965/71 FE Passenger Cars use the vertical oil filter adapter.

Using a vertical adapter on a truck: The filter will be inches from the engine crossmember, if the left motor mount (steel/rubber insulator) breaks, which is somewhat common, the filter will hit the crossmember, splitting it open. Not pleasant!

Original Auto-Lite/Motorcraft 'spin on' oil filter was FL-1. Today's it's Motorcraft FL-1A