Up-Pipe Gaskets
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Up-Pipe Gaskets
i know the consensus here is that it's best to swap to the IH Bellowed up pipes. But i dont have the $400-500$ to do that right now.
I do have a small leak on the passengers side up-pipe but i am wondering if it would be worth it to just replace the gasket/doughnuts this time and swap out to bellowed pipes in a couple years as money permits.
I havent priced the gaskets but i imagine they are a hell of a lot cheaper than new pipes....and probably a lot easier to replace.
What do yall say?
I do have a small leak on the passengers side up-pipe but i am wondering if it would be worth it to just replace the gasket/doughnuts this time and swap out to bellowed pipes in a couple years as money permits.
I havent priced the gaskets but i imagine they are a hell of a lot cheaper than new pipes....and probably a lot easier to replace.
What do yall say?
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i did the gaskets when jim(rat49f6) helped me rebuild my turbo. i also didnt have the cash and i didnt know at the time i needed them. we got them from ford for 23 dollars. either swamps or beans(google their name) sells brass donuts which are supposed to be better. they are like 80 bucks. i guess the up pipes are the best solution, but for 500 bucks...id try the brass ones first. also they are a pain in the a%% to change. so most people figure to just do the job once.
good luck
good luck
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Just got my ceramic coated bellowed pipes from Riffraff Tuesday.
It is indeed a pain in the **** that I'm not really looking forward too.
One thing to count on is that the cast collector flange will (may) be broken upon removal.Yours may not be broken but enough of them are that you should add the price of a new one (and bolts) to your calculation about the value of bellowed pipes.
Last time I did my up-pipe donuts my collector was broken. Now here I am again with leaky pipes replacing them with what I hope is the last repair of the design flaw.
Good luck
It is indeed a pain in the **** that I'm not really looking forward too.
One thing to count on is that the cast collector flange will (may) be broken upon removal.Yours may not be broken but enough of them are that you should add the price of a new one (and bolts) to your calculation about the value of bellowed pipes.
Last time I did my up-pipe donuts my collector was broken. Now here I am again with leaky pipes replacing them with what I hope is the last repair of the design flaw.
Good luck
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If they aren't leaking bad, I would leave them and wait for the IH pipes. I had a little soot on mine for a couple years and still ran good.
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Jim, i found another thread that said the small block chevy would work also
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i know the consensus here is that it's best to swap to the IH Bellowed up pipes. But i dont have the $400-500$ to do that right now.
I do have a small leak on the passengers side up-pipe but i am wondering if it would be worth it to just replace the gasket/doughnuts this time and swap out to bellowed pipes in a couple years as money permits.
I havent priced the gaskets but i imagine they are a hell of a lot cheaper than new pipes....and probably a lot easier to replace.
What do yall say?
I do have a small leak on the passengers side up-pipe but i am wondering if it would be worth it to just replace the gasket/doughnuts this time and swap out to bellowed pipes in a couple years as money permits.
I havent priced the gaskets but i imagine they are a hell of a lot cheaper than new pipes....and probably a lot easier to replace.
What do yall say?
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If you're not going with the bellowed up pipes, and don't mind the labor. Go to your local auto parts store and tell them you want (2) Felpro 8194 donut gaskets. Those are the small block gaskets.
Most kids at the parts stores can't look up parts without a year, make and model. That drives me crazy. When I last visited my friendly parts store for an AC clutch, they asked me stupid questions like 2wd or 4wd. I said, doesn't matter. I've got the 7.3 diesel and need an AC clutch.
They just asked again because the computer was asking them and they were powerless without the aid of the computer.
Anyway, ask for the Felpro 8194. When they ask for what vehicle, just say "I don't know. They just told me to get the Felpro 8194." and they'll find it for you, or find an equivalent from a different brand.
Don't forget new o-rings for the turbo to pedestal. The donuts should cost less than $10 for the set. The o-rings about the same. Just add labor, a few cuss words, and some cold beverages and you're set.
Most kids at the parts stores can't look up parts without a year, make and model. That drives me crazy. When I last visited my friendly parts store for an AC clutch, they asked me stupid questions like 2wd or 4wd. I said, doesn't matter. I've got the 7.3 diesel and need an AC clutch.
They just asked again because the computer was asking them and they were powerless without the aid of the computer.Anyway, ask for the Felpro 8194. When they ask for what vehicle, just say "I don't know. They just told me to get the Felpro 8194." and they'll find it for you, or find an equivalent from a different brand.
Don't forget new o-rings for the turbo to pedestal. The donuts should cost less than $10 for the set. The o-rings about the same. Just add labor, a few cuss words, and some cold beverages and you're set.
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Most kids at the parts stores can't look up parts without a year, make and model. That drives me crazy. When I last visited my friendly parts store for an AC clutch, they asked me stupid questions like 2wd or 4wd. I said, doesn't matter. I've got the 7.3 diesel and need an AC clutch.
They just asked again because the computer was asking them and they were powerless without the aid of the computer.
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Just so you know.......... I work at a parts store lol. I can read a paper catalog like I can read an analog watch lol. But I've been doin it long enough to just listen to what the customer needs and keep my mouth shut after I ask him/her what they need. And yes, sometimes the online catalog from the website is a lil more indepth than what we have in the store. Its broken down into normal people talk. So thank you to all the folks that look up your own parts at home. It does make it a lil easier on us
Just remember if you look it up at home and the part is wrong, please dont yell at the folks behind the counter
Just remember if you look it up at home and the part is wrong, please dont yell at the folks behind the counter
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Just so you know.......... I work at a parts store lol. I can read a paper catalog like I can read an analog watch lol. But I've been doin it long enough to just listen to what the customer needs and keep my mouth shut after I ask him/her what they need. And yes, sometimes the online catalog from the website is a lil more indepth than what we have in the store. Its broken down into normal people talk. So thank you to all the folks that look up your own parts at home. It does make it a lil easier on us Just remember if you look it up at home and the part is wrong, please dont yell at the folks behind the counter
Just remember if you look it up at home and the part is wrong, please dont yell at the folks behind the counter I used to work in an independent shop and would do my own parts runs. The local parts store was owned by friends of mine and many times I would just look up my own parts. This was before parts stores even had computers. I have the advantage of knowing what I need beforehand because of my profession.