TOO MUCH SMOKE !
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From: Plano TX and Brentwood TN
This could be another one of those scenerios where the tech didn't have the full knowledge to do the job fully(I mean fully as in replacing the oil cooler as well, not fully as in what was laid out for them to do). I'm not damning the techs for that, that would be oversight on Ford or whomever handles what goes into TSBs for not knowing the relationship between the two coolers.
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Yes it was done Sept. 08. Had 41,816 miles on the truck. They put in the second EGR valve at that time and the first EGR cooler.
So do you think I would get anywhere if I called Ford customer service? I have 58,034 miles on my truck now. It is an 2005 and I got it in 11/04 so it is out of warranty. What would they do at this point for me?
Appreciate your expertise in this matter.
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That may have done correctly what was laid out for them to do, that doesn't mean that the oil cooler should not have also been replaced as well though to solve the problem.
This could be another one of those scenerios where the tech didn't have the full knowledge to do the job fully(I mean fully as in replacing the oil cooler as well, not fully as in what was laid out for them to do). I'm not damning the techs for that, that would be oversight on Ford or whomever handles what goes into TSBs for not knowing the relationship between the two coolers.
This could be another one of those scenerios where the tech didn't have the full knowledge to do the job fully(I mean fully as in replacing the oil cooler as well, not fully as in what was laid out for them to do). I'm not damning the techs for that, that would be oversight on Ford or whomever handles what goes into TSBs for not knowing the relationship between the two coolers.
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From: Plano TX and Brentwood TN
Well, it just depends. Hindsight we can just about pick anything apart and say "shoulda, coulda, whoulda".
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Tex,
You are right playing arm chair quarterback does no good. Well beings it is out of warranty I guess I will find a mechanic here in Portland and see what they say.
My mechanic (we have 13 Interantional Dump trucks and Semi's as well as loaders that my guys keep on the road everyday) says he will do it as it looks like it is just monkey wrenching but has never torn into a 6.0 just the bigger engines. The problem is they are behind right now and it is my busy season. If it was winter we wouldn have tons of time.
You are right playing arm chair quarterback does no good. Well beings it is out of warranty I guess I will find a mechanic here in Portland and see what they say.
My mechanic (we have 13 Interantional Dump trucks and Semi's as well as loaders that my guys keep on the road everyday) says he will do it as it looks like it is just monkey wrenching but has never torn into a 6.0 just the bigger engines. The problem is they are behind right now and it is my busy season. If it was winter we wouldn have tons of time.
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From: N. Fort Worth, tx
What would it hert to call ford customer service. tell them you feel that the cooler failed agin because they at the time had not figured out oil coolers should be replaced and the system not being flushed with vc9 as there current tsb states is the correct fix. the worst they can say is no.
Just an fyi we were replacing oil coolers as much as possible durring that tsb. Ford started to charge the dealers back for over repair and unneccary parts replacement. Now they require what they were charging us back. go figure.
Just an fyi we were replacing oil coolers as much as possible durring that tsb. Ford started to charge the dealers back for over repair and unneccary parts replacement. Now they require what they were charging us back. go figure.
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What would it hert to call ford customer service. tell them you feel that the cooler failed agin because they at the time had not figured out oil coolers should be replaced and the system not being flushed with vc9 as there current tsb states is the correct fix. the worst they can say is no.
Just an fyi we were replacing oil coolers as much as possible durring that tsb. Ford started to charge the dealers back for over repair and unneccary parts replacement. Now they require what they were charging us back. go figure.
Just an fyi we were replacing oil coolers as much as possible durring that tsb. Ford started to charge the dealers back for over repair and unneccary parts replacement. Now they require what they were charging us back. go figure.
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From: Clearwater, Florida
I had the exact same thing done two years ago. They only replaced the egr cooler. In April of this year starting getting 18 degree temp spreads eot vs ect. Called Ford customer service and had the dealership call them too. I also tried to get the "faulty" 2005 trailer brake controller replaced. Ford refused to play along. I ended up rebuilding the oil cooler and deleting the egr cooler on my dime. I kept the egr cooler in case I ever want to put it back on for some reason. I have learned to live with the brake controller.
Ford said they tested my oil cooler back in 2008 and it was fine. Only the egr cooler was bad. I didnt have the Insight back then to monitor the temp spread.
Ford said they tested my oil cooler back in 2008 and it was fine. Only the egr cooler was bad. I didnt have the Insight back then to monitor the temp spread.
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Post Fiend
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From: Plano TX and Brentwood TN
They said that they did. They can say a lot of things, just don't know if they truly did it or not. Or, depending on what they did to test it as well. A lot of variables with this stuff. It'll drive you nuts.
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What would it hert to call ford customer service. tell them you feel that the cooler failed agin because they at the time had not figured out oil coolers should be replaced and the system not being flushed with vc9 as there current tsb states is the correct fix. the worst they can say is no.
Just an fyi we were replacing oil coolers as much as possible durring that tsb. Ford started to charge the dealers back for over repair and unneccary parts replacement. Now they require what they were charging us back. go figure.
Just an fyi we were replacing oil coolers as much as possible durring that tsb. Ford started to charge the dealers back for over repair and unneccary parts replacement. Now they require what they were charging us back. go figure.
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[quote=cheezit;9079653]I would rebuild the oil cooler. Its not a bad job if you can get an egr cooler off then the rest is down hill.[/quotee
Rebuild it. I cna do that. Do I take it to someone? Do I buy a kit? I am all for doing it but I have not read much on doing that. My shop is going ot fit it in as I toild them a few things can be put off a week or so. I think I am also going to have them pull the injectors as you have to pull the wiring harness. I have have had Ford replace 3 injectors while under warranty. I figure the guys that do my big truck injectors can do these. Should I have them rebuilt to stock or have anything done to them or can you do anything while just rebuilding them with out doing something to the fuel system. Anything else that you think should be done while it is this torn apart? My kit has a new up pipe so that will be changed.
Rebuild it. I cna do that. Do I take it to someone? Do I buy a kit? I am all for doing it but I have not read much on doing that. My shop is going ot fit it in as I toild them a few things can be put off a week or so. I think I am also going to have them pull the injectors as you have to pull the wiring harness. I have have had Ford replace 3 injectors while under warranty. I figure the guys that do my big truck injectors can do these. Should I have them rebuilt to stock or have anything done to them or can you do anything while just rebuilding them with out doing something to the fuel system. Anything else that you think should be done while it is this torn apart? My kit has a new up pipe so that will be changed.
