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Old Jun 20, 2010 | 08:17 PM
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closed loop system

anyone think about running a closed loop cooling system in their truck? i hate my dads cause i cant get directly into the radiator, but i love it cause i know its always full just by looking at the tank, and its a million times safer to remove the cap under heat and pressure.
 
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Old Jun 20, 2010 | 08:41 PM
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sounds $ to me
 
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Old Jun 20, 2010 | 08:44 PM
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sure, but nothing is free for my truck....
 
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Old Jun 20, 2010 | 09:35 PM
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Whats a closed loop cooling system?
 
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Old Jun 20, 2010 | 09:42 PM
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your radiator doesn't have a cap. There's a hose that runs to a tank, basically a overflow tank, but the pressure is stored there. You full your radiator through it. They run them on 99+ diesels. Not sure what else, I know older vw's ran them too. So you never have to wnder about your coolant level, if the tank is full then your radiator is too.
 
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Old Jun 20, 2010 | 09:44 PM
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its a good system but its not pratical for me or my truck just dont need it
 
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Old Jun 20, 2010 | 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by oreocreaming
your radiator doesn't have a cap. There's a hose that runs to a tank, basically a overflow tank, but the pressure is stored there. You full your radiator through it. They run them on 99+ diesels. Not sure what else, I know older vw's ran them too. So you never have to wnder about your coolant level, if the tank is full then your radiator is too.
So thats what they call that setup. Yeah I saw that on a 1995 powerstroke and my saturn SL1 had it before when it still ran on gas. Basically the entire coolant system, including the overflow tank is pressurized, right?

Any real advantage to the system? I guess its less prone to sucking air in at the rad cap. Had a problem like that once on another vehicle and for a while I suspected a head gasket.
 
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Old Jun 20, 2010 | 10:25 PM
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Closed systems are done to give the ability to relocate the highest point in the cooling system.

Many of todays vehicles the top of the radiator is lower than other parts of the cooling system, this causes vapor locking in those high points.

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Old Jun 20, 2010 | 10:38 PM
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Just another pressure coolant hose to routinely change to avoid failure.
 
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Old Jun 21, 2010 | 01:15 AM
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i can handle another hose. i think if i can find one for a good price, imma snag it.
 
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Old Jun 21, 2010 | 08:36 AM
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i know my 1987 jeep cherokee has the closed loop system and i think its just a big pain in the rear end, you have to "burp" the system anytime you change a hose or thermostat or an air bubble gets caught in the thermostat so it wont open and it overheats like crazy....not fun
 
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i know my 1987 jeep cherokee has the closed loop system and i think its just a big pain in the rear end, you have to "burp" the system anytime you change a hose or thermostat or an air bubble gets caught in the thermostat so it wont open and it overheats like crazy....not fun
FYI Pertaining to jeeps, Stock thermostats for the jeeps had a little brass bleeder valve to eliminate that, replacements don't. Anytime I replaced one I always drilled a small hole in the flange so it can bypass the air in a closed position. Works perfect.
 
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Old Jan 23, 2011 | 04:51 PM
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FYI Pertaining to jeeps, Stock thermostats for the jeeps had a little brass bleeder valve to eliminate that, replacements don't. Anytime I replaced one I always drilled a small hole in the flange so it can bypass the air in a closed position. Works perfect.
a lot of thermostats have them anymore. even the one for my camaro has one. still looking for the parts. guy in town has everything minus the fan i want. if i buy it, id install a set of dual electric fans for it.
 
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Old Jan 23, 2011 | 08:58 PM
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One thing that is bad about a closed system.
If your head gaskets start leaking compression into the cooling system, the radiator can be very low on coolant and the tank full.

So you think the radiator is full, when it really is not.

Just sent through that with a mini excavator last fall.
Had to take several body panels off to get to the radiator to remove the cap to see an empty radiator.

No wonder the engine temp was always so high.
 
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Old Jan 23, 2011 | 09:57 PM
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My 1985 VW Diesel Jetta has one of the closed loop systems. Works for me. I haven't had any problem burping the system, in fact when I replaced the radiator I just filled the overflo tank till it was to the full mark and started it up. I had to add some coolant after the first run but haven't had to add any since. With the overflo tank being above everything I can tell if the coolant is going down when I stop.
 
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