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Hello all,
In order to get my 1989 F-350 with a 7.3L IDI diesel licenced(or immatriculated) in France (european union) i'd like to get in print the data for my 7.3L IDI diesel engine, the 185 HP version preferrably the metric version of that document.
after a e-mail to navistar they were so friendly to sent me the complete "clean air act 1970" with all the attached data for this engine series, whereupon i sent that to the licencing office where these people were so friendly to say, "that's trash, it's not metric,
wrong ..."
so if there is somebody out there who can help me with the correct document, i'd would be pleased!
In order to get my 1989 F-350 with a 7.3L IDI diesel licenced(or immatriculated) in France (european union) i'd like to get in print the data for my 7.3L IDI diesel engine, the 185 HP version preferrably the metric version of that document.
after a e-mail to navistar they were so friendly to sent me the complete "clean air act 1970" with all the attached data for this engine series, whereupon i sent that to the licencing office where these people were so friendly to say, "that's trash, it's not metric,
wrong ..." so if there is somebody out there who can help me with the correct document, i'd would be pleased!
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If Navistar only has it in a non-metric version, I would be surprised if anyone has it in metric.
Exactly what 'data' are you looking for? I realize it's emissions related, but are you talking the particulate count for the exhaust, or timing/tune-up specs for emissions use, or what?
Exactly what 'data' are you looking for? I realize it's emissions related, but are you talking the particulate count for the exhaust, or timing/tune-up specs for emissions use, or what?
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Okay, I realize that is 'emissions' but what are they wanting? Here in Ontario we have emissions testing, and Ontario has a set of rules as to what is and what isn't allowed for certain levels. On diesels they basically measure the amount of 'particulate' (fancy word for soot), so one doesn't want a black spewing truck for the testing. Gassers the test includes levels of more things, and they have certain maximum ranges for certain chemicals that are or aren't allowed.
I think they are looking for something that isn't really available, as diesels are different than gas, and what they are looking for is more so for gas. I'll try to look at the test report from my diesels and see what is or isn't listed etc on it.
Another thing that makes me wonder though, is these tests generally record in parts per million or something like that, or percentages, which I can't see as an Imperial versus metric issue??
I think they are looking for something that isn't really available, as diesels are different than gas, and what they are looking for is more so for gas. I'll try to look at the test report from my diesels and see what is or isn't listed etc on it.
Another thing that makes me wonder though, is these tests generally record in parts per million or something like that, or percentages, which I can't see as an Imperial versus metric issue??
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hello, HHmMmm, i just realise that somebody frames somebody here...
When i pass inspection with my truck, they measure the exhoust fumes, if that is within a certain window they give you a "pass" or not...
But what if they don't have the emissions for your truck?!?
Can they give you a FAIR "pass" or not?
because what if they have nothing to compair the results of the machine with?!?
So i think that these Brutes from the licinsing bureau know not really what they are asking...
When i pass inspection with my truck, they measure the exhoust fumes, if that is within a certain window they give you a "pass" or not...
But what if they don't have the emissions for your truck?!?
Can they give you a FAIR "pass" or not?
because what if they have nothing to compair the results of the machine with?!?
So i think that these Brutes from the licinsing bureau know not really what they are asking...
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See that's what I was wondering, I don't know how the maximum allowable levels are decided on here, all I know is that we are allowed to a certain number, and if you pass that, no go, no license sticker for your plate until it's fixed. For diesels, they are supposed to be done yearly, however if you are within a certain percentage on the cleaner end of the scale, they will pass it for 2 years instead.
I'll try to look later today at an emissions sheet and see if it tells me anything more.
I'll try to look later today at an emissions sheet and see if it tells me anything more.
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Sorry, been running really long days, just got home now and it's after midnight, and gone again before 8am tomorrow. Hopefully I can take a quick look at it tomorrow when I get home for ya.
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I'm confused by how the unit of measure would be a problem. Are they unable to convert to metric?
The emissions test we have in western Washington State is pretty crude. They basically measure the opacity of the exhaust for diesel trucks. They do this with the truck in park, so the motor is not loaded at all. It sounds like in France they are probably looking a bit closer at what is actually coming out of the pipe
Seems like you are going to have to work pretty hard to get through the red tape once you do get everything they think they need, though I suspect you already have it, just not in a format they like. Bummer.
The emissions test we have in western Washington State is pretty crude. They basically measure the opacity of the exhaust for diesel trucks. They do this with the truck in park, so the motor is not loaded at all. It sounds like in France they are probably looking a bit closer at what is actually coming out of the pipe
Seems like you are going to have to work pretty hard to get through the red tape once you do get everything they think they need, though I suspect you already have it, just not in a format they like. Bummer.
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well, i don't know, i got this copie of a document they (the gouvernement) pass to the manufacturer of the concerning engines, since mine is build in 1989 it has to accorde to the clean air act 1970, and luckily it passes with the flag in top! what would you ecspect , the truck (actually an 1989 F-350 ex U.S.Airforce ambulance ) has had driven a mere 3.000 miles (threethousand) and since i bought it in 1995 i have put up only another 4.500, so the total is now about 7.500 ORIGINAL miles!
since i don't know how to put something (a copie of that document) in the forum, if there's somebody who knows, let me know please, i'll sent you that piece of document to put it here for the others...?
since i don't know how to put something (a copie of that document) in the forum, if there's somebody who knows, let me know please, i'll sent you that piece of document to put it here for the others...?
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I just went and checked, our test here for diesels is also done in percent opacity, with a maximum allowable percentage. Sounds like pretty much the same test as axe_handle has to deal with.
Maybe try calling some of the diesel shops around and ask them? Maybe they can try to figure it out if they know what the standard tests etc are that they perform now?
Maybe try calling some of the diesel shops around and ask them? Maybe they can try to figure it out if they know what the standard tests etc are that they perform now?
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