Flash Possible Pros vs Cons
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If this is the latest TSB we are all talking about here, I'm not sure my 04 can utilize it.
6.0L DIESEL CALIBRATION UPDATE—VARIOUS ISSUES
TSB 09-24-3
(http://ww2.justanswer.com/uploads/fo..._211519_A1.pdf)
The TSB says to "Refer to Calibration Content for information detailing specific vehicle content by vehicle application and model year that is being addressed by this calibration update "
The TSB lists nothing for the 03-04 model years in the "Calibration Content". Am I not reading this right?
6.0L DIESEL CALIBRATION UPDATE—VARIOUS ISSUES
TSB 09-24-3
(http://ww2.justanswer.com/uploads/fo..._211519_A1.pdf)
The TSB says to "Refer to Calibration Content for information detailing specific vehicle content by vehicle application and model year that is being addressed by this calibration update "
The TSB lists nothing for the 03-04 model years in the "Calibration Content". Am I not reading this right?
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If amdriven2liv is correct, it would affect my 03 also. I would hate to go in, plunk down some extra ching for the 'latest' flash, and get the one that could possibly mess up my FICM.
amdriven2liv - just out of curiosity, which flash(strategy?) are you currently running?
amdriven2liv - just out of curiosity, which flash(strategy?) are you currently running?
I'm hitting easy street
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By what I read on my Oasis report, it looks like this truck was reprogramed back in Sep. 21 2005. That is the only programing listed on it. So, we'll see.
EDIT: And it doesn't give the code for that program.
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The TSB says to "Refer to Calibration Content for information detailing specific vehicle content by vehicle application and model year that is being addressed by this calibration update "
The TSB lists nothing for the 03-04 model years in the "Calibration Content". Am I not reading this right?
The TSB lists nothing for the 03-04 model years in the "Calibration Content". Am I not reading this right?
However, I think you would still get a beneficial update to the PCM, FICM, and TCM, as noted here:
Previous released calibration content included in
IDS software release 48.2 or higher for: 2003-2007
F-Super Duty, 2003-2005 Excursion and 2004-2008
E-Series 6.0L diesel equipped vehicles:
• White smoke, lack of power, running rough
condition after cold engine start up due to injector
spool valve sticking internally during cold engine
operation.
• No start/hard start when accompanied with DTC
P0611 (FICM Performance), P1378 (FICM
System Voltage Low) and/or all eight (8) injector
circuit codes.
• The new calibration changes the frequency of
injector spool valve shuttling under certain
conditions and will sound differently from
previously released versions.
Is that of value to you? If you have the induction flash known to damage the FICM, then you probably want the new flash. If you have an original as delivered '03 or '04 flash, maybe not unless you are having any of the issues listed above (No start/hard start, white smoke, etc.)
I'm waffling on my own '06. I think I should get it, even though I have no issues.
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So, what you are saying is, that even though they don't specify my MY in the Calibration Content section, There will be benefits to my engine?
Yes, by all means I would like my FICM monitored for low voltage and performance. I just wish they would list it in the Calibration Content section along with the others.
I'll ask Ford today, see what they know.
Yes, by all means I would like my FICM monitored for low voltage and performance. I just wish they would list it in the Calibration Content section along with the others.
I'll ask Ford today, see what they know.
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I suspect that for '03 and '04, the main purpose of this latest flash is to fix what they screwed up in an earlier induction flash update.
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Does anyone know of any FICM issues that occur using the 'injector buzz' flash? I believe that is what I'm running. I haven't had any problems that I know of...knock on wood. I would just like my truck to run at peak performance, and if this new flash will help that, I will definately get it. If there is no benefit over the 'buzz', then I won't worry about it.
I do have an Edge Insight on order, mainly for watching the EOT/ECT temps. Will that still be able to monitor that without this latest flash?
Sorry for all these nube questions...still getting familiar...
I do have an Edge Insight on order, mainly for watching the EOT/ECT temps. Will that still be able to monitor that without this latest flash?
Sorry for all these nube questions...still getting familiar...
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Does anyone know of any FICM issues that occur using the 'injector buzz' flash? I believe that is what I'm running. I haven't had any problems that I know of...knock on wood. I would just like my truck to run at peak performance, and if this new flash will help that, I will definately get it. If there is no benefit over the 'buzz', then I won't worry about it.
Good choice, and I am sure it will work on an '03. All models had the two sensors, so it has to be there.
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I would like to hear Cheezit weigh in on that one. Everyone seemed to be dumping the buzz flash, but that was before we knew about problems with the induction flash. I don't think all the induction flash revisions were bad either. The problem is that it took a while for the FICM problems to show up.
Good choice, and I am sure it will work on an '03. All models had the two sensors, so it has to be there.
Good choice, and I am sure it will work on an '03. All models had the two sensors, so it has to be there.
I'm excited to receive the Insight and see what it's all about!
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haha...yes I have heard that, but I figured that all members on this site were doing it, so maybe there's safety in numbers??
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As Bill posted, there are year specific benefits for ALL year models of the 6.0 The 05, for whatever reason, needs more updates that the 06/07 model years may have already had from the factory. The 03 and 04's use the same PCM processer; the 05,06,07 all use the same PCM processer. All year models use the same FICM. Unsure about the TCM's but I'm quite sure they are all the same (logically). The later PCM's are larger, flash faster, and are able to hold more information, therefore they get the enhanced diagnostics that I don't believe the 03/04 processors can handle, however the FICM and TCM may still need updating whether or not the PCM needs an update.
