Motor mounts 302 help!
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Motor mounts 302 help!
I have a 302 in my 52 F1 and I was trying to reinstall the transmission and upon doing so the driverside mount decided to let go and seperate the rubber from the metal mount. Here is the real problem. This truck has a tubular crossmember and the mounts look like they are a special kind of mount. I have no information on what type of crossmember or where it came from. Is this something that would be mainly the same from manufacturer to manufacturer? The crossmember looks pretty much the same as what I have seen in magazines and or catalogs but, if anyone has a picture of theirs so I could see what it looks like for a reference I would really appreciate it. I'm so bummed about this. 
For all I know this could be a ford mount that fits on a tubular crossmember. If I cant find this I'm going have a nice drivway ornament and not a working drivable truck. Any help would be great!
-Thanks!
For all I know this could be a ford mount that fits on a tubular crossmember. If I cant find this I'm going have a nice drivway ornament and not a working drivable truck. Any help would be great!-Thanks!
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I don't know if there's any such thing as a standard Ford anything, let alone a motor mount. ;-) I know they made at least a half dozen different ones for the small block alone.
Leadsled, if you could provide us with pictures, it would be really helpful. Without knowing what it is you have, our guess would be as good as yours. But Charlie's advice was probably as good as you'll get, though. Take out your broken mount, run it to a parts store and have them match it up with something they have in stock. At least then you'll know what the original application is for.
Leadsled, if you could provide us with pictures, it would be really helpful. Without knowing what it is you have, our guess would be as good as yours. But Charlie's advice was probably as good as you'll get, though. Take out your broken mount, run it to a parts store and have them match it up with something they have in stock. At least then you'll know what the original application is for.
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I'll stand by my statement...standard is "regularly and widely used or sold; "a standard size"; a stock item". Early SBF engines used a mount with a single bolt that extended downward, later SBF engines used a mount that has two "ears" and requires a bolt that passes through the motor mount and the rigid mount on the frame...or in this case the crossmember. I have never seen a tubular crossmember that uses any other mount than the one with the "ears". Here's a pic...
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I'll stand by my statement...standard is "regularly and widely used or sold; "a standard size"; a stock item". Early SBF engines used a mount with a single bolt that extended downward, later SBF engines used a mount that has two "ears" and requires a bolt that passes through the motor mount and the rigid mount on the frame...or in this case the crossmember. I have never seen a tubular crossmember that uses any other mount than the one with the "ears". Here's a pic...
If the insulators are genuine Ford, they will have a ID number moulded into the rubber. The ID number can be crossed to a Ford part number, post what it is.
If there is no Ford ID number, the insulators are autoparts store replacements. Figuring out what they came from, will be a royal pain in the backside.
302's were introduced Spring 1968 and installed in: F Series Trucks, Bronco's, Econolines, Explorer/Mountaineers. Almost every passenger car thru the mid 1990's excepting Pinto/Bobcat, Escort/Lynx, Tempo/Topaz.
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I'll stand by my statement...standard is "regularly and widely used or sold; "a standard size"; a stock item". Early SBF engines used a mount with a single bolt that extended downward, later SBF engines used a mount that has two "ears" and requires a bolt that passes through the motor mount and the rigid mount on the frame...or in this case the crossmember. I have never seen a tubular crossmember that uses any other mount than the one with the "ears". Here's a pic...
So if I understand what you are saying is that this is a stock ford mount and I should be able to go to the dealer and get this?
Is there a part number for this mount?
This helps alot! Thank you very much! The forum to the rescue!
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That is the mount! I tried to uplaod the pictures but no luck on my end! It looks exactly like the one in this picture!
So if I understand what you are saying is that this is a stock ford mount and I should be able to go to the dealer and get this?
Is there a part number for this mount?
This helps alot! Thank you very much! The forum to the rescue!
So if I understand what you are saying is that this is a stock ford mount and I should be able to go to the dealer and get this?
Is there a part number for this mount?
This helps alot! Thank you very much! The forum to the rescue!
There are about 50 different 302 front engine mounts that look similar to the type pictured, I kid you not!
What this means is...the parts guy at the dealership will have to look at ALL of them to match it up, and...
I doubt the dealer will have any that were used prior to 1980...which is about 30 of them.
What you really need to do is look at your present mount for an Ford ID number...then I can cross it to a Ford part number.
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As havi said, this mount is found on late 70's Torinos and T-birds...I found many listings on the web for this mount. It was selling for about $7.00. You should be able to find it at O'Reilly, AutoZone, Checker, or whatever parts store is in your area. I am sure that the dealer will also have it at a considerablely higher price.
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Read what I typed in post #8.
There are about 50 different 302 front engine mounts that look similar to the type pictured, I kid you not!
What this means is...the parts guy at the dealership will have to look at ALL of them to match it up, and...
I doubt the dealer will have any that were used prior to 1980...which is about 30 of them.
What you really need to do is look at your present mount for an Ford ID number...then I can cross it to a Ford part number.
There are about 50 different 302 front engine mounts that look similar to the type pictured, I kid you not!
What this means is...the parts guy at the dealership will have to look at ALL of them to match it up, and...
I doubt the dealer will have any that were used prior to 1980...which is about 30 of them.
What you really need to do is look at your present mount for an Ford ID number...then I can cross it to a Ford part number.
Good luck!
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As havi said, this mount is found on late 70's Torinos and T-birds...I found many listings on the web for this mount. It was selling for about $7.00. You should be able to find it at O'Reilly, AutoZone, Checker, or whatever parts store is in your area.
I am sure that the dealer will also have it at a considerablely higher price.
Obsolete: 12 right sides, 15 left sides are available from Ford Dealers, obsolete parts vendors.
I am sure that the dealer will also have it at a considerablely higher price.
Obsolete: 12 right sides, 15 left sides are available from Ford Dealers, obsolete parts vendors.
Originally Posted by havi
Yes, typical late '70's TBird and Torino mount.
D7OZ6038C .. Right & D7OZ6038D .. Left Insulators (rubber mounts) / Both obsolete
Fits: 1973/74 Torino/Montego/Ranchero 302/351W / 1975/76 Torino/Montego/Ranchero 351W / 1977/79: T-Bird/Cougar/LTD II/Ranchero 302/351W.
Are these the correct parts? Without an ID number off one of the originals, I haven't the slightest idea.
Originally Posted by willymakeit
Look at Mid Fift's tube cross member. I beleive they give the mount part number you need.
The tube crossmember/mounts are listed on page 125.
There are no Ford part numbers listed for the mounts, just their own part number of 4445 for the 'small block' mount kit, which retails for $88.50.