Crown Vic Track width question
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REGINALD !! ........YOU DID NOT DO YOUR HOME WORK! ..........BAD BOY!
Read the old threads / posts, the information is in there, we can only offer advice (such as it is) not do the work.
“Cranky Ray”
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/8...ml#post7548758
Read the old threads / posts, the information is in there, we can only offer advice (such as it is) not do the work.
“Cranky Ray”
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/8...ml#post7548758
My bad my clairvoyance was not working that night.
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it went really well, if you have a bit of fabricating & welding skills, its been a while since i did the change over, it took me 7 hours to install, that includes tearing apart the truck suspension, steering column, all the measuring and bickering,second gessing myself, welding it in, 2 hours making my front frame rails grafted to the vic, the only reason i had to make new front rails is because mine were severely bent. overall i would do it again, parts are plentifull, never ran into any problems, my donor car had low mileage so i`m using the complete powertrain including the rear end, steering column, fuel pump,wiring harness, possibly the wiper motor,and probably more stuff as i go along, if you look at all these parts you can use,to me its the best bang for the buck.
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engine swap
I'm not sure if I'm doing this right or not or if I've asked this question already. All I know is that I need someone who is in the know to give me some good information. I have a 1966 Ford f-100 with a six cylinder and a three speed manual transmission on the column. The motor is bad and I want to replace it with a v/8. I would like to keep the Ford theme going. Does anyone know what (if any) v/8 motors will bolt up to the original bellhousing without any changes. I've been told that a 289,303 or a 351 windsor will. I have also been told that this is not true,and that none of those will fit. I 've been told that the six is unique to its self. Can anyone tell me with some high percent of certainty what will work? I would like to go with a carb. motor instead of a computer and fuel inj. Thanks
I'll have the Roast Duck
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240, 300, 302, 351W, 351C share one bell housing pattern. 352, 360, 390 (and variants) of the FE family are another bell housing pattern, and the 351M, 400, 429, 460 are yet another bell housing pattern. So depending on what original engine you have, that will determine your compatibility issue. Now I say bell housing, but that doesn't mean the clutch and flywheel interchange as easily. There's balance issues and tooth counts to be figured out.
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As much as I searched I can't seem to find what I need to know. What is the difference, if any, betweenthe 91-92 cv and the 92-95 cv? Seems like everyone is using 80-91 and 95-03 cv clips. Reason I ask is I can score a running 92 with the 4.6 for next to nothing and don't want to have something I can't use. Jeff
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Nope, because it doesn't sucessfully install on a 53-56, it's too wide.
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As much as I searched I can't seem to find what I need to know. What is the difference, if any, betweenthe 91-92 cv and the 92-95 cv? Seems like everyone is using 80-91 and 95-03 cv clips. Reason I ask is I can score a running 92 with the 4.6 for next to nothing and don't want to have something I can't use. Jeff
To my limited knowledge in 92 the body changed and as far as the panther suspension, which is what FOMOCO called this suspension, the biggest change was the UPPER control arm. This truck has a 92' Lincoln Towncar IFS, REAR AXLE, MOTOR, and TRANNY. A CV is just a cheaper cousin with a different wrapper.
HERE IS THE BARE FRAME WITH MOTOR and TRANNY for this same truck
HERE IS a Slantcab completed back in 08' that uses a 94 Crown Vic IFS, REAR AXLE, MOTOR, and Tranny
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Here's a currently ongoing discussion in another topic: https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/9...-in-56-f1.html with measurements and all.
From what I can gather, the early CV does fit, but it is not a bolt in swap, but rather a frame graft. If you have the fab skills and want to deal with figuring out how to mount the front sheet metal, go for it. The later model CV with the removable crossmember that potentially bolts in is too wide for pre 57 trucks.
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Big difference in application of suspensions between 2002 and earlier vs. 2003 and newer CV's. Now THAT'S apples and oranges. Even though they're both Panther platform, recirculating ball vs. rack and pinion makes a difference, as is the wheel offset. IIRC, the WMS to WMS on the '03 and up is 63.4" which is pretty darn close to the F series '73-up rear ends, which we know is too wide. Now let's backtrack a bit. The '73-up 9" is wider than the '57-72 9", but the front 4x4 axle width is the same '59-79 (and newer?) so if the '59/60 front 4x4 axle is the same as a 2wd '57-60, then it would be possible that the '03 and newer might work. Now it's said the '53-56 front beam axle is narrower than '57-up, so it would be likely the '03-up CV would be too wide. That's just going by the numbers.
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I just had an opportunity to measure a '59 F100 beam-axle hub to hub. I measured 62.63" My '48 F1 beam-axle hub to hub measures at just under 60" I'm hoping to get from someone on here, the hub to hub measurement on a '53-56 F100. Hub to hub, aka WMS to WMS.