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Old Jun 8, 2010 | 12:31 PM
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Expedition Electrical Coil

Hi Guys,

I have a 1998 Ford Expedition with the 5.4L engine.

I know one of the ignition coils is bad since I've had this issue in the past. However, in the past, I have been lucky enough that the coil was bad enough to send an error code to the code reader to tell me which coil was bad.

Recently, when the truck is running for a while and its hot outside, the bad coil will start to act up and cause the engine to misfire.

My question is how do I go about figuring which coil is bad? Do I have to just replace all 8 coils?
 
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Old Jun 8, 2010 | 05:24 PM
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The next time it's acting up, with the engine running unplug the 2-wire connector going to each coil one at a time. When you find one that doesn't effect the engine when disconnected, you've found the one acting up. Keep in mind that every time you disconnect a connector a trouble code will be set. They should go away at the next ignition off to on cycle.

Be careful not to get yourself or your clothing caught in the fan or serpentine belt when doing this.
 
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Old Jun 8, 2010 | 05:51 PM
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The next time it's acting up, with the engine running unplug the 2-wire connector going to each coil one at a time. When you find one that doesn't effect the engine when disconnected, you've found the one acting up. Keep in mind that every time you disconnect a connector a trouble code will be set. They should go away at the next ignition off to on cycle.

Be careful not to get yourself or your clothing caught in the fan or serpentine belt when doing this.

thanks for the advice, I will try it. When it does happen, its usuallly while i'm driving on the freeway and its hot in vegas with the ac on. Around 60 mph, i will let off on the gas and then give it a little gas and thats when the engine misfires.
 
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Old Jun 8, 2010 | 06:57 PM
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you could find a code reader that shows mode 6
 
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Old Jun 21, 2010 | 04:30 AM
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I have a coil boot that wont come out!

Cyl #1 came out fine, but #3 is stuck. And #3 is the one that is misfiring, so I currently suspect... arcing has melted the thing to the inside of the hole. Is this normal with "leaking" boots?

I've tried pulling on the boot pretty hard with pliers and it wont come up. Any ideas how to resolve this?
 
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Old Jun 21, 2010 | 09:05 AM
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I would just try to slide a long thin screwdriver down there, tap it with a hammer and try to break the boot free from the sidewall. Once it's out, do your best to clean the rest of the sidewall so the new boot/coil doesn't get damaged.
 
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Old Jun 21, 2010 | 12:25 PM
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Good idea alloro! I got it loose, and apparently without damaging it. It seems it was not melted, but it was RUSTY. Hmmmm... more clues.

I've swapped coil & boot with a known good cylinder. I still get misfire on #3. So now given that there were signs of rust down there, and knowing its NOT the coils in my case... should I suspect bad plug, or bad injector?

I guess I am on to the next task: trying to determine which. Ideas welcome, but at this point, it appears its not longer a coil conversation for me.
 
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Because of the rust I'd first swap out the plug and see what happens.
 
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