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Old Jun 4, 2010 | 03:44 AM
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Different IFS option

Over in the 67 to 72 forrums there's a guy that used an 06 Crown victoria to bolt in IFS in to his truck. Im just wondering how this would work in older trucks. Opinions please.
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Old Jun 4, 2010 | 07:08 AM
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Can you link us to that thread? I'd love to read about it.
 
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Old Jun 4, 2010 | 07:35 AM
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I think thats' been discussed on here before and even though its a GREAT front end its a bit too wide for our trucks. The '67 up trucks are wider and it fits them fine. The frames are all about the same width but the wheel track is the problem if I'm not mistaken? Its been a while ago that this was on this forum. It is a great lookin front end and would work really well if it would fit. It is alot like the jaguar setup, since its a bolt in setup. Someone will probably come on and tell more about it soon.
 
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Old Jun 4, 2010 | 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Doraville
Can you link us to that thread? I'd love to read about it.
I would love to link you to the post but I have no idea how to do it. I just know it's in the 67 to 72 section of FTE and it's posted by a guy named carcrafter22.
I never even thought about it being too wide, but I bet you're probably right. It would definately be a sweet set up. It bolts in, disc brakes, power R&P steering, its ford parts, and best of all its cheap. As a side note there are for rear ends that have disk brakes that would have the same bolt pattern as this front end set up.

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Old Jun 4, 2010 | 08:48 AM
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You can play tricks with the wheel offsets to compensate for some of the width differences. Don't know is there would be enough to work with.

My '52 F1 has a front clip from a GM G Body (Monte Carlo/Cutlass/Regal/Grand Prix). It has both pluses and minuses to it. The biggest minus is that it is a frame splice and not an IFS add-on.
 
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Old Jun 4, 2010 | 08:48 AM
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It's too wide for the 48-52 trucks but it will work under the 53-up. Someone has used one here but I forget who...
 
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Old Jun 4, 2010 | 08:51 AM
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The guys with 53's on up should really take a look at the build up that carcrafter22 posted. Its a super sweet set up.
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Old Jun 4, 2010 | 09:00 AM
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I can see where the 06 would defintely be too wide that car has almost a FWD type of wheel offset. 06 has a rack and pinion steering also I think 03 and up have it.
Now I would take some measurment off of an 81-97?? Crown vic and see where it comes out.
And without a rack it would be easyier to section the whole deal and make it as narrow as needed.
Also you could look at the 98 up 2wd rangers also I'm sure that would fit the bill.
 
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Old Jun 4, 2010 | 09:39 AM
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The cross member on the late model crown vics is cast aluminum it would be hard if not impossible to narrow it.
 
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Old Jun 4, 2010 | 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by docholiday72tx
The cross member on the late model crown vics is cast aluminum it would be hard if not impossible to narrow it.
thats why I was mentioning the 81 to__02?? or whatever year have that rack and alum stuff.
 
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Old Jun 4, 2010 | 11:54 AM
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Here's the text from a post I made on that thread...I went to the wrecking yard and measured and photographed a 2004 and a 2007 CV to get this data:

"I have had an interest in this IFS for some time and after reading this thread and other material on the subject I went to the wrecking yard yesterday and checked out a 2004 Croxn Victoria for myself. The crossmemebr looks good...however, the measurements I took indicate that the flange to flange width of this IFS is 67.5 inches...that is quite a bit wider than stock and requires wheels with virtually no offset. I measured from the center of the mounting bolt that attaches the crossmember to the frame out to the flange of the rotor...this distance is 18 inches. The distance as measured from the outside of the frame to the mounting flange is 15-3/4 inches. The car I measured was sitting up on blocks so the wheels were off and no weight was on the suspension which means that the wheel hubs were at their lowest point...as the wheels go up with the weight of the vehicle on them these measurements may actually grow due a bit.
carcrafter22...thanks for taking the time to post the pictures and all your work on this effort, especially given your travel. I will be following this thread to see how the project concludes when you get to the point where you get the wheels mounted and the truck in it's final configuration.

As an added note: the car that I looked at was a 2004, there was a 2007 next to it and I noticed that the a-arms were different between the two. The 2007 were formed steel just like the pictures you have posted in this thread of your 2006; however, the 2004 uses cast aluminum a-arms. Dimensions looked the same but the aluminum arms were much thicker (as would be expected)."
 
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Old Jun 4, 2010 | 02:08 PM
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Well (Julie) it’s been a month since this item.

Have a look here;

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/7...67-f100-7.html

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/8...-1959-s-b.html

1948-52 Ford Truck Frame Swap

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/9...-up-frame.html

Oh, by the way, it's tooooooooo wide!
 
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Old Jun 4, 2010 | 03:01 PM
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I can see where the 06 would defintely be too wide that car has almost a FWD type of wheel offset. 06 has a rack and pinion steering also I think 03 and up have it.
Now I would take some measurment off of an 81-97?? Crown vic and see where it comes out.
And without a rack it would be easyier to section the whole deal and make it as narrow as needed.
Also you could look at the 98 up 2wd rangers also I'm sure that would fit the bill.
I'm assuming then the early to mid eighties Vics didn't have rack and pinion? The earlier versions cross member was also welded to the frame rails so it would be more of a frame graft verses the 2002(?) and later which would unbolt. Yes, if the Linclon Versallies was still being produced I'm sure it would have a perfect front end but no such luck. Of course I guess one could widen the front fenders about 1 1/2 and possibly make it work?
 
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Old Jun 4, 2010 | 04:31 PM
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what about the frt crossmember out of an aerostar? back when these were being produced, i changed several from wrecks. they are bolt in with rack and pinion. i have never measured the tracking width but i would guess it to be similar to an explorer. should be a dime a dozen. any thoughts or info?
 
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Old Jun 4, 2010 | 04:33 PM
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mike woods that owns nitrous express here in w.f. even had an aerostar for a daily driver with a 5.0 in it. and nitrous of course
 
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