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Old Jun 2, 2010 | 03:32 PM
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Takes a while to build vacuum

When i start the truck air only blows out of the defrost vents... then after about 5-10 seconds it switches to the front vents (or whatever i have selected). It then works fine until i turn off the truck again.

Is this normal or do i have a vacuum leak? (haven't had the truck that long, but it has allways done this for me.) I have searched for a leak several times, but have found nothing...

Also, right when the vacuum builds up enough to switch the vents i get a slurping/farting/grinding noise that lasts for about 1/2 second or so... can't really tell what it is... any ideas?
 
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Old Jun 2, 2010 | 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by GUNNERDOG

Also, right when the vacuum builds up enough to switch the vents i get a slurping/farting/grinding noise that lasts for about 1/2 second or so... can't really tell what it is... any ideas?
That's a colorful description It's probably the blend door closing.

Sounds like you have a very slight vacuum leak that's going to be tough to find.
 
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Old Jun 2, 2010 | 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by SteveBricks
That's a colorful description It's probably the blend door closing.

Sounds like you have a very slight vacuum leak that's going to be tough to find.
I hate "small problems"... catastrophic ones are much easier to spot.

Can the blend door be replaced or somehow adjusted to prevent this? It is quite loud and embarassing when i have others in the cab...
 
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Old Jun 2, 2010 | 03:58 PM
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There is a TSB out on kinked vac. hose at the heater / blend door area... that you diagnose by getting into the pass dash.

I can't recall the num... let me try to find it later.
 
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Old Jun 2, 2010 | 04:29 PM
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The blend door is not operated by vacuum. There are three air direction doors that are, though.
 
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Old Jun 2, 2010 | 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by GUNNERDOG
Can the blend door be replaced or somehow adjusted to prevent this? It is quite loud and embarassing when i have others in the cab...
Blame it on the dog.

Looks like Mr. Chamberlain has what you need.

Thanks for the correction, David.
 
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Old Jun 3, 2010 | 07:03 AM
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The noise sounds like it is coming from the "panel/floor vacuum control motor" area.

I'll tear into it this weekend.

Thanks guys.
 
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Old Jun 3, 2010 | 09:31 AM
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Couple of thoughts:

Do you have ESOF? If so, the vacuum solenoid could be leaking, and draining the vacuum reservoir. Then, start the engine, and it takes a few seconds to build vacuum up in the reservoir again which also powers the climate stuff.

Or, there is a one-way valve before the reservoir, so it holds vacuum. That could be leaking, so when the engine is not supplying vacuum, it slowly empties (fills?) the reservoir.

Or, the reservoir itself could be bad - I've heard of them cracking from age.
 
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Old Jun 3, 2010 | 09:41 AM
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I do have ESOF, and have capped my vac lines (warns). I do not loose vacuum when i switch to 4x4, but if it is a small leak at the solenoid maybe it wouldn't drain the reservoir enough to effect other things... I'll cap the lines going into the solenoid and see if that helps.

Is there a vacuum bleed-down spec? As in how long is should take for the vacuum to go to zero after you turn off the truck based on normal leakage? maybe i can check the 1-way valve and reservoir with a vacuum pump?
 
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Old Jun 4, 2010 | 07:18 AM
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I don't know of any spec - I suspect ANY loss of vacuum in the reservoir is not a good thing. You might just have a kinked/clogged line ... or something else going on.

I haven't spent enough time under the hood playing with vacuum to tell when/how fast the reservoir builds vacuum.
 
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