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Old May 30, 2010 | 11:03 PM
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2009 Engine Meltdown! Replacing Tomorrow. Need tips

Got a big job ahead tomorrow...

The truck... 2009 F-350. 6.4L Powerstroke.

The issue... 2 cylinders with 0 compression. Injectors not firing correctly... melted holes into pistons. Also not shifting out of park (Maybe from the dead battery?)

The (stupid) owners... Logging firm here in central British Columbia. NOT CHANGING THEIR FUEL FILTERS!!!! Warranty Void. Kept running their truck with obvious issues. Where they are getting another engine from is still a mystery.

I'm doing this at a diesel shop, have all the tools (I hope) and all the space I need.

Any tips would be appreciated (other than the obvious). I'm so used to working on diesel trucks where everything is wide open, not as tight as this truck is. I've got a camera ready and a lot of markers and masking tape, so putting it all back correctly will not be an issue.

Would it be better to remove the fenders and hood?

P.S.... Have you changed your fuel filters recently?
 
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Old May 30, 2010 | 11:11 PM
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A used engine is far cheaper than doing a self rebuild... unless you are pricing labor at zero and getting parts at wholesale.
 
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Old May 30, 2010 | 11:35 PM
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It's either used, or bought directly from ford. Knowing the owners... probably used.
 
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Old May 30, 2010 | 11:36 PM
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Would it be better to remove the fenders and hood?
From some of the posts I've read on here, you might be looking at removing the cab.

Good luck with this and please keep us posted.
 
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Old May 30, 2010 | 11:44 PM
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I've heard that as well... not looking forward to it.
 
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Old May 31, 2010 | 12:00 AM
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The cab is designed to be removed. All the wiring has connectors. From technicians I have spoken with, it really isn't a bad job.

It is a far cry from the 1956 F-100 I drove in high school. I could actually get into the engine compartment and stand next to the 223 I-6 while it was running.
 
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Old May 31, 2010 | 12:31 AM
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Any links to write-ups or diagrams would help. Thanks all.
 
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Old May 31, 2010 | 12:31 AM
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you have to pull the cab to remove the engine. Good luck with out a lift.
 
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You don't HAVE to pull the cab, but it does make it a lot easier. I looked at a labor guide for this job. It shows about 24 hours with cab removal, 15 hours without cab removal. And it lists it as an A tech, which is the most skill required.
 
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Old May 31, 2010 | 09:03 AM
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I'll take the easiest route and pull the cab. We don't have a vehicle hoist here, but we have massive gantry cranes, which should do the trick.

The master cylinder should come right off without having to open any lines... correct?
The truck also wont shift out of park... but is it because the battery is dead?
 
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Old May 31, 2010 | 12:13 PM
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So how does ford void the warranty for lack of fuel filter change? If you ask me that wouldnt cause directly pistons to get holes in them. I would let them prove that it caused it. In alot of cases it would cost them more to prove it than to just fix it.
 
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Old May 31, 2010 | 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by radzer0
So how does ford void the warranty for lack of fuel filter change? If you ask me that wouldnt cause directly pistons to get holes in them. I would let them prove that it caused it. In alot of cases it would cost them more to prove it than to just fix it.
If dirt, contaminants, or water got past the filters and into the high pressure fuel system it could damage the HPFP and injectors.

Overfueling in specific cylinders can be caused by damaged injectors. This can punch holes in pistons.
 
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Old May 31, 2010 | 12:42 PM
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Alright, I didnt know about the overfueling thing. I knew it could damage injectors but I always thought it would just damage them as in not putting out enough fuel or total killing of them.
 
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Stopped for lunch now... a few more connectors to go and then the master cylinder and the cab is ready to be lifted. My camera crapped out early, so I don't have many pictures.

Got the truck into neutral after throwing it on the charger.
 
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Old May 31, 2010 | 02:29 PM
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def want to see some of the pics you take when your camera is up. Good Luck
 
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