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Old May 23, 2010 | 11:04 PM
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I am sorry to bring this up but I am working on a 96 Toyota Camry to fix and sell and I cant seem to get her figured out. I got the car for free because it had a really bad miss to it. Turns out the valve seats on the number one cylinder in the head were bad so I pulled it all apart got a new remanufactured head with new camshafts. (2.2L DOHC). Put it all back together according to spec and it won't start. Just cranks and cranks and cranks. The timing is correct I checked it about 4 times and had my ASE boss check it as well and he said it was correct. I realize it takes awhile to pump oil all through the head and pump the valves up but litterally we worked on the car for probably 4 hours and the thing still wont start. It has compression but not that much. Also, it spins rather fast and it doesn't hit at all on any of the cylinders. All the injectors are firing properly. All the plugs and wires are correct and sparking like they are supposed to it just wont go. I don't know what to do especially since I am supposed to deliver this car on wednesday to Minnesota (I am in Indiana). Once again I am sorry for bringing up something that isn't Ford truck related but I am desperate.
 
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Old May 24, 2010 | 12:05 AM
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If you would post this in General Automotive Discussion you might get more help. If you are low on compression that is most likely your problem.

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Old May 24, 2010 | 06:23 AM
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cranks fast, low compression..... sounds like the timing belt is off. IIRC the mark on the inner crank pulley are hard to see on those. Is that the motor that has one cam pulley driven by the belt and gears to drive the second cam? Maybe the gears are out of time from when the head was put together
 
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Old May 24, 2010 | 08:04 AM
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Yeah that is the motor. However we checked that and they are matched up correctly. Or atleast correctly according to the Hayne's manual.
 
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Old May 24, 2010 | 08:46 AM
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So if you line up the timing pointer to TDC then the small hole in the cam pulley lines up with the mark in the cyl head? I use a bent paper clip to stick in the hole and feel for the indent in the cyl head (It's pretty hard to see) If you're 100% sure its right then a compression and leakdown test would be in order
 
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Old May 24, 2010 | 08:59 AM
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I agree, sounds like cam timing is off.

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Old May 24, 2010 | 12:43 PM
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Yeah we used a small allen wrench to make sure it was in the correct spot. I guess the only thing that keeps popping in my head is the point where the two cams meet. There are a couple of different dots on the cam maybe I could have aligned the wrong two?
 
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Old May 24, 2010 | 03:44 PM
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Good possibility, I can look it up on AllData when I get home in a couple hours...
 
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Old May 24, 2010 | 06:32 PM
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IF your not sure about the dots you could turn the motor over by hand and watch the valves opening. pull a plug out on the cyl you're watching and drop a long screwdriver or coathanger on top af the piston to watch the piston go up and down. (don't force turning the motor over by hand in case the valves get hung up in the coathanger)
 
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Old May 24, 2010 | 08:08 PM
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It seems to be a very strange installation procedure on the timing belt, I can try to print it to a pdf and email it to you if you like.
 
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Old May 24, 2010 | 10:00 PM
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Careful, Thats a Zero Clearance motor ain't it ... ??

Don't want to be bending any of them shiny new valves!

NEVER NEVER stick anything hard into the cylinder while rotating the motor... Use something soft like a straw!

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Old May 24, 2010 | 11:34 PM
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Thanks for all your help guys I really appeciate it. I figured it out. The intake cam has a total of two dots stamped on it. The exhaust cam has three. I was able to figure out the intake cam with the timing notches and the more I looked at the pictures in the haynes manual with a magnifying glass I was able to make out which of the three dots on the exhuast cam were supposed to line up with the intake cam. Long story short I had the wrong dots put together. Flipped the exhaust cam a little and she started right up. You guys are a life saver thanks so much.
 
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Old May 25, 2010 | 12:33 AM
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Cool beans ... So no valves got bent, thats awesome!

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