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Old May 21, 2010 | 07:30 PM
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Big Problems, need advice

I have 2 broken glow plugs, #2 and 6, that my mechanic can't get out. While I was in Mexico the mechanic there busted them good. Number 2 has an easy-out sticking out the top and number 6 is sheared off smoothly.

I am back in the good ole USA and have taken my truck to the mechanic that rebuilt my engine 3 years ago. He has pulled the head and saw the tip of one of the plug tips laying in the pre-combustion cup. Luckily it never fell into the cylinder. He sent it to a machine shop but they can't get them out.

I am looking for any suggestions on removing the remnents of these plugs. Can they be touched out or drilled?
If I have to replace the head can I use a 6.9 head on my 7.3?

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Old May 21, 2010 | 07:42 PM
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there are glow plug tip extractors. I'd look into that
 
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Old May 21, 2010 | 07:47 PM
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try soaking them in penetrating fluid for a few days...
 
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Old May 21, 2010 | 08:37 PM
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Thanks for your reply.
What would you recommend for a penetrating fluid. I read on this site that Tranny fluid and acetone mix works well. Any other recommendations?

If I have to swap out the heads can a 6.9 be mounted on a 7.3?
 
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Old May 21, 2010 | 08:43 PM
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PB is a good one. It's a yellow lid, yellow white black and red can. It's spray can. And yes you can BUT from what I've heard the 6.9 rockers aren't as good.
 
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Old May 21, 2010 | 08:50 PM
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I'd say try a different machine shop. It may be necessary to go to an actual machine shop, versus an automotive shop, to find someone that can EDM the centre out of the GP's to the crests/roots of the thread.
 
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Old May 21, 2010 | 10:14 PM
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once fixed/replaced heads,only use motorcraft (made by beru) glow plugs to avoid this problem in the future.
a lesson learned the hard way by too many IDI owners here on this site alone sadly.
anyone else running any other brand of GP in your diesel...hope you heed the warning and avoid the op's problem.
 
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Old May 21, 2010 | 10:32 PM
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The 6.9 heads will fit ... However, the holes for the head bolts are smaller requiring drilling.

7.3 rockers can be installed on the 6.9 and is a recommended upgrade for '86 and older 6.9s, '87 6.9 already has them.

The broken easy out needs to be EDM'd out, might as well do the other while at it.

The others soak them in a PT fluid, push them out with a flat tipped round rod thats basically the same diameter as the hole, optimally a loose slip fit. I think it's 3/16" that works good.

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Old May 22, 2010 | 07:50 AM
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What is EDM?
 
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Old May 22, 2010 | 09:20 AM
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electric discharge machine
 
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Old May 22, 2010 | 09:22 AM
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basically a waterjet machine but uses electricity instead of water. So, a waterjet machine meets plasma cutter
 
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Old May 22, 2010 | 09:24 AM
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I will let my mechanic know when I see him later today.

Mucho Gracias everybody
 
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Old May 22, 2010 | 04:08 PM
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Cornking, I've had some luck taking a hex nut over the broken part and welding them together. If it breaks off do it again. Between the heat and cooling, it should come out. I've used this technique to remove many broken exhaust manifold bolts. Good Luck!!

GeneO

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It wouldn't hurt to use anti-seize on the new GPs and don't over tighten.
I like to heat my GPs before installing them to make sure they are OK.
 
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Old May 22, 2010 | 11:19 PM
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Dont know if it would work or not, but a left hand drill bit may take them out. Start as small as you can and work your way up and try to stay out of the threads.
 
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Old May 22, 2010 | 11:48 PM
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Dont know if it would work or not, but a left hand drill bit may take them out. Start as small as you can and work your way up and try to stay out of the threads.
that would work if it was a threaded piece. hes talking about the tip, no thread. the mechanic just used the easy-out to just try to break the seal. a left handed drill bit would do the same as a standard drill bit in his case.
 
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