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Old May 18, 2010 | 05:37 PM
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ok.. the wanna's or wanna do's:

bump horsepower (really? imagine that) on both - not that it's "needed" but hey, where's the fun in keeping it stock?

mod exhaust - both are completely stock - down-pipe and all i hear that the down-pipe is a real bottleneck on these engines in terms of their power... and i'm guessing it'll be pretty easy to do (relatively) on the van since you can actually reach it... :-)

cold air induction...? is it really worth the $'s for a vehicle i don't plan on racing? (where the crap would you race a 4WD full sized van anyway?!)

new seats in the van - only has stock driver and passenger buckets - nothing in the rear - goal for the van is to be the go-anywhere family camping toy that can also tow a trailer with the 6-wheeler and 4-wheelers - would it be overkill to bring the cj5? :-) - i'd love to outfit the rear with and old school camper conversion setup (like an old vw bus conversion they used to call an alabama camper - they came w/ or w/o a pop-top)

do wanna put a couple of sunroofs in the van - no desire for windows... there are plenty of holes in the roof from the copious antennas and light bars the police had outfitted the van with in years gone by, so i won't be sacrificing virgin sheet metal - this stuff is full of holes and covered with dabs of silicone all over!

truck is beginning to "thunk" when turning to full lock to the left... (ball joints?)

need to kiss the back of the inner front fenders with the angle grinder to keep from scraping - prolly only need to fuzz off 1/32 or so...

need new windshield in the truck... it cracked this winter it also leaks like a sieve, and has since i got it - any ideas...? replaced all the clearance lights and clear silicone'd them to the roof... had it to the windshield place when i first got it - they said seal was good - but it was leaking under the drip rails...? huh? silicone'd that too when i hit the lights... still drips... driving or not... no faster or slower... just drips... grrrrr.....

wanna try to straighten bumpers on the truck... or replace...? anyone tried to straighten twisted bumpers...? literally twisted.. one end up, one end down... no real dents...?!

what am i down to... 17 now...?
 
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Old May 18, 2010 | 05:50 PM
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potentially silly question...

what are the major changes between my 96/97 powerstrokes and my wifes '01 powerstroke excursion?

is it true all excursions are "california" vehicles? i hear this changes things regarding glow plug relays and a few other things... do i need to ask this in the other (later model 7.3) board?
 
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Old May 18, 2010 | 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by pgerblonski
potentially silly question...

what are the major changes between my 96/97 powerstrokes and my wifes '01 powerstroke excursion?

is it true all excursions are "california" vehicles? i hear this changes things regarding glow plug relays and a few other things... do i need to ask this in the other (later model 7.3) board?
I'm not sure but i believe the excursion has split shot injectors, intercooler, and a 17* HPOP. where as the 96/97 PSD's are single shot, no IC and 15* HPOP.

Keep it up your getting there! What only 6-7 to go?
 
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Old May 18, 2010 | 07:55 PM
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so, um... if my buddy really upgraded my injectors to "the ones the use on they newer 7.3's" might it mean i could have the split shot...? would those plug in and work on an older model powerstroke? i'm guessing from the name that's a twin-head injector, like two injector ports, instead of one... kinda like a 4 valve intake instead of 2 on a gasser? hmmmmm wonder if there's anyway to know from on top (looking under the hood, and not taking anything apart - my buddy used to own a shop that specialized in these guys... he's not there anymore - hence my relative bind regarding the codes on the excursion that started all this - i'm spoiled, i could always show up, get my codes read/diagnosed/cleared and then go buy him lunch for his trouble - good food, good friend, and good diagnosis for a good price... but i'm on my own now with this collection of diesels) anyway... if those would "work" and if he did that, seems i'm short an intercooled turbo and probably some head mods (i think he said once the heads flowed much better on the late model 7.3's though i'm not sure if it's a casting difference, or more a matter of porting and/or port matching that caused the increased flow...?) to get the engine in the 97 acting/running like a late model...? it can't really be that easy.. can it?

hmmm the more i think about it this is interesting... can i see the injectors w/o dismantling? i haven't even tried to figure these diesels out... used to have my own shop working on old gassers... bought these three trucks over the years and was trying to remain blissfully ignorant and unaware... as the economy is seemingly crumbling around us, it seems i need to step up and learn...

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Old May 18, 2010 | 08:01 PM
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hmmmmm i wonder if posts = reputation points... and if'n i gotta reach a threshold of reputation points... hmmmmm....

wonder if that's similar to street cred....

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Old May 19, 2010 | 02:45 PM
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hmmm anudder day.. anudder couple of posts...

loaned the 97 out yesterday for someone to use to go retrieve a '54 1 ton chevy on my trailer... ran flawlessly... he commented about how shocked he was with the great ride... think part of it was shock over good ride vs. the appearance with the tweaked bumpers and super custom vertical stripe action on that driver's rear fender...

redone1 - i did let that hypertech on ebay go... ended up hitting 80-something and since it was precisely for any of my trucks (pretty bad when you own three and a programmer doesn't speak directly to any of them...) i decided i'd wait, save my $'s write copious amounts of posts here and maybe one day see how much i need to give ya!
 
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Old May 19, 2010 | 02:47 PM
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wow... i'm like better than halfway there!

have been reading the boards and i'll bet i may get to invest in a glowplug control module for the excursion... time (and a scanner to verify that) will tell

do need to get a glowplug relay for the '96 van... are there p/n's to avoid or to seek after?
 
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Old May 19, 2010 | 03:16 PM
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Alright here we go...

Originally Posted by pgerblonski
ok.. the wanna's or wanna do's:

bump horsepower (really? imagine that) on both - not that it's "needed" but hey, where's the fun in keeping it stock?

mod exhaust - both are completely stock - down-pipe and all i hear that the down-pipe is a real bottleneck on these engines in terms of their power... and i'm guessing it'll be pretty easy to do (relatively) on the van since you can actually reach it... :-)

cold air induction...? is it really worth the $'s for a vehicle i don't plan on racing? (where the crap would you race a 4WD full sized van anyway?!)

new seats in the van - only has stock driver and passenger buckets - nothing in the rear - goal for the van is to be the go-anywhere family camping toy that can also tow a trailer with the 6-wheeler and 4-wheelers - would it be overkill to bring the cj5? :-) - i'd love to outfit the rear with and old school camper conversion setup (like an old vw bus conversion they used to call an alabama camper - they came w/ or w/o a pop-top)

do wanna put a couple of sunroofs in the van - no desire for windows... there are plenty of holes in the roof from the copious antennas and light bars the police had outfitted the van with in years gone by, so i won't be sacrificing virgin sheet metal - this stuff is full of holes and covered with dabs of silicone all over!

truck is beginning to "thunk" when turning to full lock to the left... (ball joints?)

need to kiss the back of the inner front fenders with the angle grinder to keep from scraping - prolly only need to fuzz off 1/32 or so...

need new windshield in the truck... it cracked this winter it also leaks like a sieve, and has since i got it - any ideas...? replaced all the clearance lights and clear silicone'd them to the roof... had it to the windshield place when i first got it - they said seal was good - but it was leaking under the drip rails...? huh? silicone'd that too when i hit the lights... still drips... driving or not... no faster or slower... just drips... grrrrr.....

wanna try to straighten bumpers on the truck... or replace...? anyone tried to straighten twisted bumpers...? literally twisted.. one end up, one end down... no real dents...?!

what am i down to... 17 now...?
Ok so, the most restrictive part of your exhaust is your downpipe, when you go to do up an exhaust, definitely get a 3" dp and 4" the rest of the way. Also, if you dont have emissions testing in your area, get rid of the cat. If you do have emissions testing, you can gut the cat. As far as muffler, thats up to you. The next thing is intake. Many people use a Napa 6637 filter and just custom fab it into the intake system. Do a search on here for 6637 mod and you will find many pictures of intakes and stuff like that. Mine is a Tymar intake, its basically the same thing as 6637 except my filter is a Donaldson filter and the major difference is mine is waterproof.

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so, um... if my buddy really upgraded my injectors to "the ones the use on they newer 7.3's" might it mean i could have the split shot...? would those plug in and work on an older model powerstroke? i'm guessing from the name that's a twin-head injector, like two injector ports, instead of one... kinda like a 4 valve intake instead of 2 on a gasser? hmmmmm wonder if there's anyway to know from on top (looking under the hood, and not taking anything apart - my buddy used to own a shop that specialized in these guys... he's not there anymore - hence my relative bind regarding the codes on the excursion that started all this - i'm spoiled, i could always show up, get my codes read/diagnosed/cleared and then go buy him lunch for his trouble - good food, good friend, and good diagnosis for a good price... but i'm on my own now with this collection of diesels) anyway... if those would "work" and if he did that, seems i'm short an intercooled turbo and probably some head mods (i think he said once the heads flowed much better on the late model 7.3's though i'm not sure if it's a casting difference, or more a matter of porting and/or port matching that caused the increased flow...?) to get the engine in the 97 acting/running like a late model...? it can't really be that easy.. can it?

hmmm the more i think about it this is interesting... can i see the injectors w/o dismantling? i haven't even tried to figure these diesels out... used to have my own shop working on old gassers... bought these three trucks over the years and was trying to remain blissfully ignorant and unaware... as the economy is seemingly crumbling around us, it seems i need to step up and learn...

YIKES!
Next topic... If you do have injectors in there from a Super Duty, they are split shots, which mean they have a small initial shot of fuel followed by the main shot of fuel. These injectors work in our trucks but single shots are a better option. You should be able to pull the valve covers and look at your injectors. They should say what they are i believe, The split shots are AD's, the factory single shots are AA's. Here is my question for you, is your truck a Cali truck to begin with? Because in late 96 and 97, there was a cali style truck which came with split shot injectors which would mean that the SD injectors that were "supposedly" replaced into your truck are no different that what would have been in the 97 cali truck to begin with.

Originally Posted by pgerblonski
hmmmmm i wonder if posts = reputation points... and if'n i gotta reach a threshold of reputation points... hmmmmm....

wonder if that's similar to street cred....

:-)
Basically is street cred. You can rep someone who helps you or posts up a good thread or some good information. I try to rep people who really help me out, or go out of there way to help me, or someone who really just clarifies something I'm confused about.

Originally Posted by pgerblonski
wow... i'm like better than halfway there!

have been reading the boards and i'll bet i may get to invest in a glowplug control module for the excursion... time (and a scanner to verify that) will tell

do need to get a glowplug relay for the '96 van... are there p/n's to avoid or to seek after?
You are getting close!! As for the glow plug relay, im not familiar with van engines but if the gpr is the same as on the other truck, little brown gpr, the replacement is gpr-109. They sell them at Napa for like $35 or something like that.
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i think the split shots are AB. and the single shots are AA, but AD is the same as the AA,just used in international instead of ford.
 
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Originally Posted by chicagodragon
i think the split shots are AB. and the single shots are AA, but AD is the same as the AA,just used in international instead of ford.
AB's are split shots used in the OBS cali trucks, AD's are split shots used in the SD trucks. AA is the same as AO which are both single shots.
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thats what it was
 
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Old May 19, 2010 | 05:04 PM
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man, i remember when split shots were what we used to weight our lines whilst fishing...

*sigh*

how times change...

(i'll try to take a poke and see what these are...?!)

to the best of my knowledge the F350 was originally a FL truck, the van sold in VA... the excursion i understand is by default CA... (so i learned elsewhere on the board)

and in my frustration... i have finally fixed the old cj5! hehehe... when you can't fix new stuff, tinker with something akin to a riding lawnmower on steroids!
 
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haven't had the time to check the injectors... but i did run the cj all over town today in an effort to selflessly shake it down to make sure it would be safe for highway use... hopefully the sunburn on the top of my head will eventually stop hurting

still baffled by the code throwing monster (excursion) seems that the gpcm must be trying/then failing perhaps one bank is failing... i must admit i do not see any sense in making a simple 'preheat failure' throw a service engine soon light - it would be nice i suppose if there was an 'information level' code light that alerted you something non-threatening was amiss rather than lumping any error into the "reboot - the computer just crashed" level the SES light implies...

*sigh* 9 more to go!
 
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or was that 10....?
 
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ok.. now i'm down to 8... right...?

didn't know counting would play this pivotal a role in my life... maybe i shoulda paid more attention in kindergarten
 
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