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Old May 12, 2010 | 09:43 PM
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5.4 Towing impression.

So I just spent the past two days towing my 4000# plus boat back and forth to the lake with my new F250 with the 5.4, 3.73 rear end. I was satisfied with how the truck felt as far as very little bucking or jerking while from the trailer.

That 5.4 impressed me as well, I made sure to read many threads before towing with this truck/engine combo as I have never owned a F250. One thing was consistant. Let the thing rev! So I did. Pulled fine. Not gonna win any races but was able to get up to speed on the interstate with no problems. Now, I can see how having the PSD would be helpfull when merging, but I just can't see the benefit of owning a PSD unless your pulling serious weight most of the time.

At 70mph I was turning about 2500rpm, getting about 9.5-10mpg. Felt like the engine was more then content with this and the transmission seemed to know when it needed to make a change.

The only thing I HATE about this truck is the dang rattle coming from underneath. I have check every heatshield, inspection plate, and everthing else under it and it won't stop. In fact it was worse when under load. It soulds like BB's in a can and is always at 1900 RPM and ONLY after the transmission gets up to operating temp. Do I have a bad tranny or torque converter?

Anyway just wanted to give my impression of the truck. Owned for exactly one month and already has over 4K on it. Not even a daily driver I have another Ford for that.
 
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Old May 12, 2010 | 09:57 PM
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I know my 06 had a heat shield on the upper portion of the tail pipe that was causing a similar noise at about 3k. A portion of it rotted off and i ripped it off. You could check that or the shield around the muffler if your 09 has one.
 
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Old May 13, 2010 | 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by g5poirot647
At 70mph I was turning about 2500rpm, getting about 9.5-10mpg.
This was the big decision point for me. Pulling a 7-8K pound travel trailer, I would get 7-8mpg. Either way, it meant making nearly twice the number of fuel stops as I do now with the PSD.

I guess it all depends on how far you're going.

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Old May 13, 2010 | 11:12 AM
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The heat shields are attached to small metal strips welded to the exhaust pipes. I traced an irritating buzz like you describe down to a busted weld....
 
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Old May 13, 2010 | 12:10 PM
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I had an 06 F250 with the 5.4, towed my 8K trailer pretty good up into the mountains. Does rev pretty good but I was lucky to get about 190 per tank.

good dependable motor.
 
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Old May 13, 2010 | 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by g5poirot647
Now, I can see how having the PSD would be helpfull when merging, but I just can't see the benefit of owning a PSD unless your pulling serious weight most of the time.

Excellent summation. You did your homework. I corrected the little typo to say what I know you meant.
 
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Old May 13, 2010 | 12:30 PM
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I would think that rattle would be covered under the 3/36 warranty, make them find it.
 
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Old May 13, 2010 | 12:38 PM
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5.4 towing

I pull a 3 horse gooseneck trailer, 4,900lbs empty. With 3 horses loaded, I can roll 65-70 on the highway and average 9mpg. I set the cruise control on the highway, as the computer shifts much better than the awful fly by wire throttle. Would have liked the PSD, but couldn't justify the extra $$ for the occasional weekend tow. The 5.4 is a capable engine that really shines at 4-5K RPM
 
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Old May 13, 2010 | 01:06 PM
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My 5.4 towed 9,000lbs on the few times I needed to tow it, like a champ.
 
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Old May 13, 2010 | 01:43 PM
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Mine did well with a u-haul car trailer and our Mustang Vert on the back, got peretty much the same mileage and at times it almost didn't feel like it was pulling anything.
 
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Old May 13, 2010 | 01:45 PM
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At 70mph I was turning about 2500rpm
in Overdrive or direct?

With 4.11s I run just under 2,250 in OD going 70.

my 10,000# travel trailer will bring my 5.4L down to about 9 mpg when towing on the highway, and will comfortably go about 65 mph steady. It does what it needs to.
 
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Old May 13, 2010 | 02:00 PM
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The 5.4 is great, underappreciated engine. Thanks for giving it the kudos it deserves!
Out here in the land of 7000 foot+ mountain passes with 9%+ grades, they start coming up short. But for towing a reasonably aerodynamic boat on flat, low altitude roads it is more than adequate.
 
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Old May 13, 2010 | 02:09 PM
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On the rattle - is it an automatic trans? Check the flexplate cover. I know on the older 4R100's there was a tendency for the sheet steel covers to vibrate. Tightening bolts and/or applying a thin bead of silicone would shut them up. Not sure if the new trans still uses the same design....
 
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Old May 13, 2010 | 02:31 PM
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Also on the rattle, are you sure it isn't auto-ignition pinging?
 
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Old May 13, 2010 | 02:54 PM
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I have a buddy that tows a 32' 5th wheel with a 2000 5.4 CC 4x4 manual tranny. He likes it. Like he says, "I'm not winning any races, but I'm getting there." He's right. I followed him last weekend to the hill country. I would quickly get on his tail going up the hills, but we both got there. I gotta admit, I got better gas mileage following him...helped me keep my foot out of it. both of us were towing a 32' 5th wheels.
 
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