I am still gathering info for the project I am looking for.

I know it is not simple BUT

If i get a truck and want to make sure the engine is strong and want to rebuild, is it as simple as getting a rebuild kit from say RPM and taking engine down and putting new parts back in. Will I NEED to or should I have a shop look at the block and check it out. I have read taking the engine out of the truck is the first thing. Help me with a starting point.

I was thinking of getting one that has been built already, but how do you really know who did it and how well?

 

no kidding now, if you decide to run a 300. buy your base truck with an engine already running.drive it. get to learn it. you may decide you do not like our 6. if you do, i honestly believe you should do your best to round up an engine only from the yard or a friend. get yourself a cheap but stable engine stand. harbor freight pratically gives them away. bust her down and then come back. we can walk you through the whole deal. your checkbook will be your rev limiter. and no, you cannot simply buy a kit and stick it in. it does not work like that. much precision measuring must be performed. machining will be required in many areas and so forth. you cannot know about a prebuilt engine unless you take an internal looksee OR by one from one of the REGULARS here, dats de only way in my 04. good luck. you know the engine stand motor is so you can drive truck while waiting on $$$ for udder one you knew that, i spit it out anyway. take care and good luck. it can be a LOTTA fun, exepensive but FUN. paul.

 

Kind of info I need and great advice, what should an engine cost froma yard or an individual if it needs rebuilt? What is a ballpark for one already rebuilt from some one on this site.

THX~

 

i honestly do not even know if any are for sale here as of now. the point i was trying to make is that these guys are outright experts on the 300.if its been done, or can be done, you will most likely find it here in the archives. from mild to wild. i was speaking directly to there general attitude and there honesty, a great bunch of gearheads here, guys who give a chit you know. i am not nor will i ever dink with you. not my style. i hate to say it, but it just seems like more and more there are unscrupulous folks out there(NOT HERE) who will sense your excitement, and the fact that you are honestly admitting your just starting out and will(not all, but some) take your money and run. soooo, i dont mind if you find one you might want and want to ask a few. i will do whatever i can within reason to help. so will others i know in my heart, it,s just not proper for me to speak fors. i do not have that right. but i do believe if you come back with real, help you will get. . do you have any leads now or are you just researching. it,s okay if you are, only a fool jumps in. just like da song say,s . paul

 

Really just resarching to see what direction to go. I live close to Pigeon Forge and am heading to the Spring Nationals Sat. I have been looking for trucks on line to see price range and conditions. I will look at the show to confirm the model I want. 65-66 I think. Then I will start going and looking in person to see the truck I want to purchase. I like the idea of getting one already built that I can learn to tinker on before i go all in. As I have stated in other posts (to your point) I can look all day at trucks that are mechanically rebuilt and need cosmetics BUT how do I REALLY know who built them and if they know what they are doing. I read ALOT of threads about people looking these trucks over and find everything from bailing wire to home electrics keeping them together and running. Thanks for your time and I will let you know what I figure out and which direction I go.

 

sometimes the other fella,s might tell you something you just might not like, but it comes from been there done that and they really are shooting square with you. always ask for clarification about a given mechanical statement that may be made to you if your not sure of the root message.you know, sometime,s the internet can really stink. the nicest guy in da whole who really cares, and is trying to help. and the post sounds like he is the biggest a------. in cyberspace. ya gotta watch for that. round here from what i have seen its not much of a problem but it does happen. i,m guilty, sure am.said a few here and there everybody could have done without, it happens. okay in your court, paul md

 

i will say a few more. it has been learned the hard way, a zillion time,s by some very smart people.
lets start with few of the most basic, what you do and why is NONE of my biz. but do your vices if any,NEVER BEFORE or DURING always after you knock of if you are so inclined period.
absolute hospitable clean to the best of your surroundings is paramount to a good build when you start to reassemble. no punk excuses, just make it happen.
i do not care if you have eye,s like a hoot owl. proper lighting, even to the point of different spectrums mixed together. (ie standard round bulbs red spectrum and the flours spectrum emitted depends on coating white blue soft red even duplicate sunshine.
get yourself some different power magnifying hand held glasses. you will be ataken back what your crank, rings stuff like that looks like under power with good light that you just built right. this alone will teach you volumens.period.
we will start u at the bottom and slowly work our way up
you must learn about proper SEQUENCE, so you do not get caught in the trick bag and throw good money after bad, or do things twice because you got antsy and fast forwarded. for ex/ one of the FIRST things you shall do is have your head dipped and magged to ensure there is absoutely now cracks of any kind anywhere BEFORE you spend one dime on seat work. this is sequence and i will pay off for you. i give you my word of honor. okay. post back if want. i,m game paul

 

So I get the engine, tear it down and find a shop to check out the head. Is there a ballpark figure $ wise on getting this done. There are some locals on here that can help me find a place.

 

An engine from a boneyard should cost you about $200.

DO A SEARCH. THERE HAS TO BE 50 THREADS ON THE SAME TOPIC.

 

do not think i am talking DOWN to you, its not that at all, i realize you know its not simple. you said that, you see i respect you for that. a young man who is truly asking and tells the thruth and just flat out says so. well i,ve always thought guys like that were worth the investment. that simple. do a search is a valid point, its the way forum,s operate. but until serious well meaning objections are raised. for real i see nothing wrong with just quietely carrying this thread, our mods will speak if it is overdone.

the cost is impossible to predict, there are to many variables. any ballpark i give you might not mean anything in your state, i can tell you this. a lot of indys will asses you personally right of the bat. as soon as they talk to you they are already deciding how much and how far they will go. you are in his house basic patience and respect goe,s a long long ways for the old grizzly but good machinist. for real stuff jr never try to bullsheeeet the old man. he will see right through you instantly. listen, there are ways you can show pop respect and save money. for example. buy yerself a valve spring compressor. strip the head down to bare casting. get water as hot as you can stand, get tide or dove or even a coulpla degrease spray cans and clean that head within reason. shows the man respect and also tells him you might be just getting at it, but you care. sometimes around shops, a man will take a liking to you. (proper like you understand) and you can learn to always listen very carefully instead of trying to impress him with how much you know, well sometimes they open up and will tell you inside stuff, things they have spent 30 or 49 years learning. its not about kissing his backside and buying lunch. its respect and listening to him taking his hard earned advice when he really puts it on you. its usually okay with a really cool old greybeard to ask why if you want, if they like you they will tell you simple as that. think about this, how many eyes do you have. 2 how many ears do you have 2 how many mouths do you have, 1 what does that tell you a short mech point. make some kind of jig. cardboard will work. orient your head left to right, and make sure every valve and associated hardware goes into a whole that is MARKED to each respective cyclinder. this is very very important if you need parts to go back to origional hole. do not depend on memory. mark it in big red, you will be glad you did. you see about sequence now. a 200 engine stand mule. if head is cracked you stop right now and reavaluate. da block wont help if you got no head. you know this. i,m just reminding you cuz you have asked for help. proud of ya for not being a cocky little ---t. take care and let me know. you know pm works if ya want. dont mind a bit. paul md.

 

we need to spend a few on this subject, what do you have now and what will you need to properly build a 300 that will make power and more important live. your motor tis no good to you atall if she will not live. i believe i can really help you here i honestly do. for example torque wrenchs. i,ll do my best to steer you right on a torker that will be sufficient but will not cost you a months rent. there are some tools that are a requirement. i dont want to start a firestorm here. there is more than one very competent wrench here who can tighten a bolt simply by feel, and you put a torker upon her and she will be + or- a few dead on spec. they can look at or feel a bearing and just know when it tis right. its an art form and takes years to develop. would you agree that we are not quite there yet. ya need a good torker period well talk. me.

 

All pricing for any parts and/or services are local. One must check with local suppliers.

 

Ive got one for sale, if you need any parts.

 

Jes, You live in East TN? I am a bit confused. Is engine together and runnning or just been re worked and has all the parts. Let me know and let me know when I may look at it.

 

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Thanksfor all the advice I am glad you are still following this thread. I am starting the search for the truck / engine that fits my needs. Appreciate the advice. May be a bit before I find the truck I want but I will have questions along the way as I start my research on the building process. Can u pm on this site?

Joey