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Old May 10, 2010 | 07:22 PM
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I noticed my 1973 F-100 with 360 that the air cleaner snorkel is not working .This snorkel works off of a temperature bulb.Does anyone have the part number on this part?Help Number Dummy.Does anyone have a working snorkel? Sorry about using wrong forum.Thanks,Russell
 
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Old May 10, 2010 | 09:20 PM
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Im digging for the p/number...is there any kind of ID number on the air cleaner assy ???

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Old May 10, 2010 | 09:33 PM
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cs65,I think there is a part # for just the snorkel itself.There may be a few letters on it.I will look tomorrow. Russell
 
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Old May 11, 2010 | 03:19 AM
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Originally Posted by leonharu
I noticed my 1973 F-100 with 360 that the air cleaner snorkel is not working.

This snorkel works off of a temperature bulb. Does anyone have the part number on this part?
The flapper inside the snorkel is controlled by a vacuum motor that mounts atop it.

The snorkel does not come with the vacuum motor, both were sold separately.

D7AZ9D612C .. Vacuum Motor (Motorcraft CX149) / Obsolete

Fits: 1973/76 F100/350 240/300/302/360/390 // 1973/78 LTD/Mercury Marquis 351C/351M/351W/400/460 / 1973 Mustang/Cougar 302/351 / 1974 Torino/Montego 302/351C 2V.

RAY MOTOR CO. in Hillsborough NC has 1 = 919-732-8118.

GREEN SALES CO. in Cincinnati OH has 3 = 800-543-4959.

VINTAGE PARTS in Beaver Dam WI has 112 = 877-846-8243.
 
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Old May 11, 2010 | 07:26 AM
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Here is another snorkel question while we are at it.
I want to know how this thing is actuated to allow for the mixing effect of warm air or cold.

Here is the PN on the snorkel itself. COWF-9A626-A. It came off a 72 LTD with a 390 and an auto. There is no vaccum motor or external provisions for any hookup. Is that spring looking thing a thermal sink?
 
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Old May 11, 2010 | 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by flipklos
Here is another snorkel question while we are at it.
I want to know how this thing is actuated to allow for the mixing effect of warm air or cold.

Here is the ID engineering number on the snorkel itself. COWF -9A626-A. It came off a 72 LTD with a 390 and an auto.

There is no vaccum motor or external provisions for any hookup. Is that spring looking thing a thermal sink?
It can't be COWF, you wanna know why?

CO is 1960, W refers to Cougar, which wasn't introduced until 1967. The air cleaners used on 1960/64 V8's have the snorkel made as part of the air cleaner, so it's not replaceable by itself.

It's: C8WF-9A626-A = C8WY9A626A .. Duct and Valve Assy (less vacuum motor).

Fits: 1968/71 LTD/Mercury Marquis 390 2V / 1968 Fairlane/Torino/Comet/Montego/Mustang/Cougar 390 2V / 1968/72 F100/350 302/360/390.

The vacuum motor (C8AZ9D612A) used with this duct (snorkel) is mounted on the underside, not on the top of it.
 
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Old May 11, 2010 | 03:46 PM
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Bill I know you are right 99.99% of the time but I know what Im seeing and typing is 100% correct.

My guess is that it is an error in the way the number was painted on.

How does the flapper for the hot air operate on that model do you know?
 
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Old May 11, 2010 | 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by flipklos
Bill I know you are right 99.99% of the time but I know what Im seeing and typing is 100% correct.

My guess is that it is an error in the way the number was painted on.
It's gotta be C8 cuz no 1960/64 car w/a V8 had a replaceable snorkel.

How does the flapper for the hot air operate on that model do you know?
By its vacuum motor. It could missing on the snorkel (Ford: Duct & Valve) you have, or...you don't realize it's mounted below the duct, not on the top of it.

Go here: Illustration Section 96, Page 13. A similar setup is shown. Notice the preheat tube (9A603) that bolts to the right exhaust manifold.

If you don't have the preheat tube, the flapper won't flap. If this air cleaner is mounted on your '64 F100, remove the flap from the duct, cuz there's no preheat tube used on trucks until 1967.

Pic on left shows the motor = 9D612 and etc. The duct shown is C8WY9A626A the same one you have. I edited this info into my post above.
 
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Old May 11, 2010 | 05:06 PM
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It is not on my 64. It is for a 2 barrel I intend to install on a 300 six. I want the flapper to move and intended to use a cable pull. Not noticing any vaccum motor provisions on it I thought that it may be of automatic operation via an internal bimetalic spring or such.

I am used to seeing a vaccum motor on the top of the housing so I figured otherwise. I can make this work with a choke cable. Thanks though ND.

BTW-I know you are right here, but I swear the numbers I gave you are dead on.
 
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Old May 11, 2010 | 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by flipklos
It is not on my 64. It is for a 2 barrel I intend to install on a 300 six. I want the flapper to move and intended to use a cable pull. Not noticing any vaccum motor provisions on it I thought that it may be of automatic operation via an internal bimetalic spring or such.
Look at the parts catalog illustration I passed along, it's the same setup, because the same C8WY9A626A = duct, snout, snorkel, proboscis, nose, whatever you wanna call it.. is used with 1968/72 F100/350 V8's.

I am used to seeing a vaccum motor on the top of the housing so I figured otherwise. I can make this work with a choke cable. Thanks though ND.

BTW-I know you are right here, but I swear the numbers I gave you are dead on.
The ID number may have a prefix of COWF, but the only possible reason would be if the stencil Ford used to paint that number was worn out.

It's the same scenario one sees with casting numbers. The die was worn out, but el cheapo FoMoCo kept using it...8's look like 6's or O's. The letter B looks like a 6 or an 8, C's look like O's and et cetera.
 
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Old May 11, 2010 | 07:42 PM
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The snorkel does not have any kind of vacuum control on it.It has a thermal bulb that works off of temperature.It has been like that since new. I need the part # for this snorkel or the thermal bulb that goes in it. Thanks,Russell
 
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Old May 11, 2010 | 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by leonharu
The snorkel does not have any kind of vacuum control on it.It has a thermal bulb that works off of temperature.It has been like that since new. I need the part # for this snorkel or the thermal bulb that goes in it. Thanks,Russell
There's no parts catalog illustration of a thermal valve, in fact I've never heard of such a thing, where does it mount?

D3OZ9A626D .. Duct & Valve Assy / Obsolete

Fits: 1973 F100 302 w/dry type air cleaner / Note: This duct has a 1973 Torino part number prefix (D3OZ), but it's not listed in the car parts catalogs for a Torino, or anything else.

GREEN SALES CO. in Cincinnati OH has TWO = 800-543-4959.
 
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Old May 11, 2010 | 08:37 PM
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Bill,it mounts inside of the snorkel itself.Looks kind of like it would be hard to change.Small spring hooks on end of this piece and other end of spring hooks to flap.
 
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Old May 11, 2010 | 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by leonharu
Bill,it mounts inside of the snorkel itself. Looks kind of like it would be hard to change. Small spring hooks on end of this piece and other end of spring hooks to flap.
That's prolly why I'm not familiar with it.

There is no parts catalog listing or illustration of it...which means it was only supplied with the duct...if the duct you have...is original to the truck, and not from something else.

The pic in the 1973/79 Ford Light Truck Parts Catalog of the air cleaner and attaching parts (Illustration Section 96, page 2, lower pic) shows a vacuum motor (D7AZ9D612C) mounted on the duct for 1973 F100 302; 1974 F100 302 w/o T/E (smog pump).

When you call Green Sales, make sure their duct matches what you have now.
 
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Old May 11, 2010 | 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy
The ID number may have a prefix of COWF, but the only possible reason would be if the stencil Ford used to paint that number was worn out.

It's the same scenario one sees with casting numbers. The die was worn out, but el cheapo FoMoCo kept using it...8's look like 6's or O's. The letter B looks like a 6 or an 8, C's look like O's and et cetera.
I am sure this is what happened. Hence, you are right 100% here.

leonharu, That is what I got. I will try heating it with a torch a bit. If it moves I will send it to you for the cost of shipping.
I want the ability to blend the air temp for my winter use.
 
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