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Old May 6, 2010 | 11:06 PM
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SLoppy steering....

1997 F350 CC...It has messed up tie rods when i bought it..and wheel bearings. Replaced all. However my steering wheel has a TON of slop to it..Any bleeder? Or adjustments that can be made? Its all over the road.
 
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Old May 6, 2010 | 11:10 PM
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New steering box.
I got over an inch of play in my steering wheel myself.
 
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Old May 6, 2010 | 11:12 PM
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Im like 3"...
 
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Old May 6, 2010 | 11:14 PM
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Yea, best bet is to get a new steering box, not a junk yard box.
Or grab a JYard box and have it rebuilt. Not sure what is cheaper.
 
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Old May 7, 2010 | 08:03 AM
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Look at the bushings on the track bar (if you have one) & the intermediate shaft from the column to the gearbox. The shaft has a plastic bushing that wears out . Grab it in the middle ,see if it moves up & down..
 
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Old May 7, 2010 | 11:07 AM
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You can tighten the worm gear a little on the steering box. It's on top of the box, slot for a flat screwdriver in the middle and a nut on the outside. Hold the screw in place, loosen the nut, screw in the center a 1/4 turn, then tighten the nut down. Should take some slop out...
 
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Old May 7, 2010 | 03:47 PM
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Brownie, due to popular mistake, that doesn't actually fix sloppy steering.
Its for something totally different.
I really wish I could remember at the moment what for. If you talk to a front end alignment specialist, he will tell you to leave it alone.
 
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Old May 7, 2010 | 03:56 PM
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Oreilly has them for 170 mines the same way
 
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Old May 7, 2010 | 04:30 PM
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red head steering gears in WA...
 
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Old May 7, 2010 | 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Talyn
Brownie, due to popular mistake, that doesn't actually fix sloppy steering.
Its for something totally different.
I really wish I could remember at the moment what for. If you talk to a front end alignment specialist, he will tell you to leave it alone.
I agree...
Messing with the gear adjustment will almost guarantee you will need a new one ...
 
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Old May 7, 2010 | 06:03 PM
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yea, it doesn't' fix the steering slop, its an adjustment for something totally different.
 
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Old May 7, 2010 | 07:59 PM
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yea, it doesn't' fix the steering slop, its an adjustment for something totally different.
According to Ford Motor Company, that adjustment is to set the lash between the sector gear and rack teeth in the gearbox.

While this may not be a fix-all for worn components, eliminating excessive lash between gear teeth will help eliminate slop in the system, at least the last time I checked...
 
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Old May 7, 2010 | 09:00 PM
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That's what I've heard from several members on here... Just passing it on. I could be wrong.
 
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Old May 7, 2010 | 09:03 PM
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I wish I had a tape recorder for when I talked to the guy about this last time. I simply cannot remember everything

Adjusting the lash on the gear box will cause excessive wear on the gearbox and can cause the gearbox to lock up during operation.

AKA. Your stuck turning left/right. *crash*

If you tear down a steering box, you'll see that this really has nothing to do with the "slop" in the steering.
I adjusted mine every which way I could on my 95 without any success, only a stuck steering wheel. It will basically make it harder for you to turn by adjusting it because your moving the gears around inside.

Whoever came up with this though that it "adjusts" the slop in the steering wheel pretty much irritates any front end specialists.

I spoke with the local guy about this for a good 10 minutes the last time I was down there. He knows what is going on too.
 
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Old May 7, 2010 | 09:31 PM
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I wish I had a tape recorder for when I talked to the guy about this last time. I simply cannot remember everything

Adjusting the lash on the gear box will cause excessive wear on the gearbox and can cause the gearbox to lock up during operation.

AKA. Your stuck turning left/right. *crash*

If you tear down a steering box, you'll see that this really has nothing to do with the "slop" in the steering.
I adjusted mine every which way I could on my 95 without any success, only a stuck steering wheel. It will basically make it harder for you to turn by adjusting it because your moving the gears around inside.

Whoever came up with this though that it "adjusts" the slop in the steering wheel pretty much irritates any front end specialists.

I spoke with the local guy about this for a good 10 minutes the last time I was down there. He knows what is going on too.

Hmm...maybe I shall explain some simple mechanical properties. Take two gears for example, the teeth between the two have a specified contact pattern/tolerance. If those gears are spread apart, simulating wear, they will become loose and sloppy, especially when changing rotational direction. Now take and bring them back together, and they will mesh like the did originally. Of course if you jamb them too close they will bind up and they will lock up/be hard to turn.

Granted this may not be as good as new but it will help remove excessive slop in the system. If you bought a Ford repair manual instead of relying on some socalled 'professionals' hot air, you would see this is an approved procedure of adjustment that I have personally done it and had great results with.

Maybe instead of adjusting yours every which way, you should follow the procedure and pull the steering wheel and pitman arm and make your adjustments based on the preload you observe using a torque wrench to rotate the steering shaft. If you do only half the job and try to crank this set screw down so much as to lock up your steering, you deserve to crash. Just my opinion.
 
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