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May 4, 2010 | 02:08 PM

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BarnieTrk

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Originally Posted by hivoltj

Here it is in all it's (faded) glory!! I'm trying to find out where the engine and wheels/tires went, and still trying to talk the wife into it, crap if she don't want it, I think I'll take it! What can you guys tell me about it?

HiVoltj,
You mentioned that you 'built' a '78 years ago. Was the '78 in better or worse shape when you started it as compared to this '64?

I'd say that in order to make the drivetrain and related electrical from an '89 F150 4x4 all work in that ol' '64 F100 4x4, you'll need either a FAT check book or you'll need to be a pretty good fabricator & have good electrical savvy with lots of spare time. But I'm sure such a project has been before and it can be done again. Since you said all the '89 stuff was free and that this '64 would also be free - and IF you've got the money and/or time & talent to melt the two together - then it sounds like it a project just waiting to be done!

Good Luck & keep us posted on your decision and/or progress!

BarnieTrk

May 4, 2010 | 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by NumberDummy

1964 F100 4WD money pit.

All it will take is a labor of love and 15 grand plus to restore it.

Don't think it will cost that much? Ask the nephew what he originally figured it would cost.

When reality set in, this is prolly the reason why he gave up on it.

When one has owned over 300 old rolling piles of misery as I have, one can eyeball something like this, and figure the cost factors.

It needs EVERYTHING!

I appreciate the concern, but building is my hobby/obsession, I'm not a car enthusiest that writes a check for services rendered (no offense, just not my deal) I have fabricated many of my own parts for projects such as this. I would problably budget about 5 years for this one to be totally done. I'd likely have it driveable but ugly as sin in about a year.

Maybe if I dropped it off at the body shop with a blank check. I honestly can't see it costing even close to that. I'm not doing a concourse restoration, I have a donor already for Trans/Engine/harness/Computer/T-case. The kid who started stripping it likely didn't know WTF he was doing like you see with many abandoned projects. "Oh no! body work!" There will be not a single hour of labor billed on the new project (this one or not) I'll fabricate as many parts as I can, (tailgate, bumpers, etc.) Me and my family will be doing all the work, body, paint, mechanical, etc. I'm not a body shop pro by no means, but this ain't my first rodeo.

The plan WOULD be (if we get it) to get it rolling under it's own power with the drivetrain swap, then start working on the body/frame/interior little by little, then blow it apart when money allows for frame-off/paint/interior.

May 4, 2010 | 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by BarnieTrk

HiVoltj,
You mentioned that you 'built' a '78 years ago. Was the '78 in better or worse shape when you started it as compared to this '64?

Good Luck & keep us posted on your decision and/or progress!

BarnieTrk

No, the '78 was in excellent "survivor" condition, original paint was a little dull and started to surface rust slightly, but it was a cherry unit. I built the motor (comp cam, .020 overbore, rebuilt heads, headers, holley, blah blah) Added a 4" skyjacker lift. I have built or had a hand in building several other cars though, and don't have (hardly) any money, but do have very good fabricating skills, equipment and wiring skills!

I know a lot of times on the boards you deal with guys that are very new/inexperienced but still enthusiastic, that's not the case with me, I'm no stranger to building engines, trannies, axles, using welders, torches, sheet metal breaks, wiring diagrams, etc. I was a mechanic professionally for 5-6 years, but got tired of working on everybody's POS honda/toyota/fill in the blank.

Hell, sounds like I ought to build this truck just to show people what can be done with just some junk and a little imagination.

May 4, 2010 | 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by hivoltj

I have built or had a hand in building several other cars though, and don't have (hardly) any money, but do have very good fabricating skills, equipment and wiring skills!

I know a lot of times on the boards you deal with guys that are very new/inexperienced but still enthusiastic, that's not the case with me, I'm no stranger to building engines, trannies, axles, using welders, torches, sheet metal breaks, wiring diagrams, etc. I was a mechanic professionally for 5-6 years....

Now had you said all of the above in your first post of this thread, then I, and maybe a few others, would have likely not been as concerned that you may be getting in over your head.

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Hell, sounds like I ought to build this truck just to show people what can be done with just some junk and a little imagination.

Nobody here has said that this swap can't be done -- In fact, I it being said earlier,

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....I'm sure such a project has been done before and it can be done again. Since you said all the '89 stuff was free and that this '64 would also be free - and IF you've got the money and/or time & talent to melt the two together - then it sounds like it a project just waiting to be done!

Good Luck & keep us posted on your decision and/or progress!

With all that being said now, I'm voting for ya to, "GIT R DUN" and slap her on the butt when she gets up to get ya another beer.....

BarnieTrk

May 5, 2010 | 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by BarnieTrk

Now had you said all of the above in your first post of this thread, then I, and maybe a few others, would have likely not been as concerned that you may be getting in over your head.

Nobody here has said that this swap can't be done -- In fact, I it being said earlier,

With all that being said now, I'm voting for ya to, "GIT R DUN" and slap her on the butt when she gets up to get ya another beer.....

BarnieTrk

Thanks for your help guys!

I would have said all that in the first post, but I didn't want to seem like I was bragging "Look at me and what I can do!" Bottom line is : I ain't scared to get my hands dirty. I'm a builder at heart

ND, was a 300 I-6 or equivalent block ever available in this chassis? Wondering if there are any motor mounts that would work for the '89 motor, or if I'll have to fabricate some?

May 5, 2010 | 01:22 PM

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NumberDummy

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Originally Posted by hivoltj

ND, was a 300 I-6 or equivalent block ever available in this chassis?
Nope.

1961/64: 223 or 262 I-6.

The 240 & 300 I-6's were introduced in 1965.

Jun 22, 2010 | 02:35 PM

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Hey guys, truck is rolled into a shop on my Dad's farm, 80 miles away, had my little brother meet the sheriff to do a VIN inspection, he brought the form up last weekend to me, the Sheriff put a different VIN number than what I had decoded by you here. Can't remember what it was right off hand, a lot longer than the F11 number, and it had an
M120 in it somewhere? Is he right or me? Which number is it that goes on the title?

Jun 22, 2010 | 03:02 PM

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BarnieTrk

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First off, what is, "...to do a VIN inspection"?

What did you expect to accomplish by having a "VIN Inspection" done?

Determine what the number is that the sheriff gave your truck and then post it here.
It's hard to tell what is going on, when we don't have all the information.......

BarnieTrk