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Old May 1, 2010 | 08:40 PM
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Runs great cold

2000 F-250 5.4L Runs great when cold. Terrible missing once warm. Have error codes that left and right banks are too rich and misses in one cylinder in each bank. Book said Upstream and downstream O2 sensors / possible EGR. There is no downstream O2 sensor and no EGR. (I have looked vigorously for the EGR)

1. - No EGR?
2. - Possible injectors that don't work well hot?
3. - Converter?

Any thoughts? Any ideas appreciated.

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Old May 2, 2010 | 12:35 AM
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What specific codes are you getting? Does the engine blow black smoke when it's running rough?

How many miles are on this engine? Has anything been done to it recently?
 
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Old May 2, 2010 | 07:10 AM
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P0171 Too lean bank 1
P0174 Too lean bank 2
0302 Cyl 2 misfire
0305 Cyl 5 misfire

Doesn't blow smoke but can clearly smell gas.
 
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P0171 Too lean bank 1
P0174 Too lean bank 2
0302 Cyl 2 misfire
0305 Cyl 5 misfire

Doesn't blow smoke but can clearly smell gas.
 
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Old May 2, 2010 | 07:13 AM
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First fix the miss fires, either try plugs or cops. Clear codes and give it another try.
 
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Old May 2, 2010 | 08:46 AM
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I think it's a vacuum leak. Your getting misfires because you're running so lean the spark plugs can't ignite the mixture.
 
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Old May 2, 2010 | 09:12 AM
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I think the misfires are caused by the lean condition.

Lean condition could be caused by...

Clogged fuel filter
Dirty or bad MAF sensor
Bad oxygen sensor
Vacuum leak
dirty fuel injectors
fuel pump
vacuum leak

Since it's only happening when it warms up it probably has something to do with what happens when the PCM goes into "closed loop" and starts to adjust based on what it sees from the sensors.

My vote is to clean the MAF sensor and see what happens. Then look at your oxygen sensors. If it were anything else I don't think it would run well when cold and start missing when it warms up.
 
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