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Old Apr 27, 2010 | 10:53 PM
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CCV Filter question

My next mod will be a DIY CCV filter. I think I have a great idea and it will go along with learning how to do my first album. As far a great I will let all you guys be the judge. The question I would really appriciate feed back on is how much oil do you get out of the trap DIY-Racor etc and at what interval. Example 1 cup per 5,000 etc and how many miles on the engine if you care to say. Thanks for all input.
 
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Old Apr 28, 2010 | 08:16 AM
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I installed a BD Diesel ccv kit right after I purchased my 07......it is a very easy to install and affordable kit. I drain it with every oil change and will get approximately 1/2 of a cup of oil.....but it varies slightly whether I'm towing long distance or just driving around town. It will save a lot of wear and tear on your turbo system......oil vapour destroys the boot, plugs the intercooler, and causes sticky vains in the turbo itself. I highly recommend the install.
 
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Old Apr 28, 2010 | 09:31 AM
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I used 10 feet of 10' of 1" hose and vented to atmosphere 6000 miles ago. I have not seen a drip yet and I have looked
 
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Old Apr 28, 2010 | 10:00 AM
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Off the top of my head...I guess I've had mine installed for the past 12,000 miles and have only collected about 6 ounces of oil and about 8 ounces of water. Well worth the investment.
 
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Old Apr 28, 2010 | 11:31 AM
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I also plan on doing a DIY ccv
 
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Old Apr 28, 2010 | 11:43 AM
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I just have a hose aimed down about mid way back mounted to the frame. No filter and no issues. One thing that I have noticed, the oil stays cleaner MUCH longer. ( I also have a EGR delete)
 
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Old Apr 28, 2010 | 11:55 AM
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I just have a hose aimed down about mid way back mounted to the frame. No filter and no issues. One thing that I have noticed, the oil stays cleaner MUCH longer. ( I also have a EGR delete)
yup that will do it!!
 
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Old Apr 28, 2010 | 02:38 PM
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Hey Smokersteve if your not in a hurry hold off a bit I think you may like my idea. Just got to get some time. Thinking I am going to have to build fence this weekend and bring the horses in for their spring manicure but should be able to get to it next week.
 
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Old Apr 28, 2010 | 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by mackl1
Hey Smokersteve if your not in a hurry hold off a bit I think you may like my idea. Just got to get some time. Thinking I am going to have to build fence this weekend and bring the horses in for their spring manicure but should be able to get to it next week.

Ok thanks im in no rush
 
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Old Apr 28, 2010 | 08:47 PM
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CCV on high mileage psd- worth it?

Hi,
I am very interested in installing a CCV reroute on my truck. My truck has 125k miles on it. Do yall think it would be too late to install it or I would still benefit? The only thing i am concerned about it is since i already have high mileage is if I should go ahead and have the turbo cleaned before I install it. What do yall think? Any input is appreciated. Thanks
 
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Old Apr 28, 2010 | 08:54 PM
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Hi,
I am very interested in installing a CCV reroute on my truck. My truck has 125k miles on it. Do yall think it would be too late to install it or I would still benefit? The only thing i am concerned about it is since i already have high mileage is if I should go ahead and have the turbo cleaned before I install it. What do yall think? Any input is appreciated. Thanks
Never too late. Prevents build up of oily dirty air gumming (coking) up the turbo and CAC tubes as well as the intake itself. I'd go for a complete turbo clean-up and remove the CAC tubes and clean them thouroughly too. If you can and have time...cleaning the intake manifold would be another good ideal. Keep your stock intake filter and change it as recommended.
 
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Old Apr 28, 2010 | 10:13 PM
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One of the things that will be a long term study for me is to monitor the crankcase pressure #1 starting with a base of a new system and following though. I think ambient
temperature has a lot to do with this as there is a lot of water vapor in crankcase vapor that will accumulate in the reservoir and lines thus I do believe this type of system has no place other than to belong in the engine compartment. Also the media used to condense the vapor has to remain none restrictive at all times. While it may not 100% I think it is pretty much a given that higher mile motors will throw more crankcase pressure and seals are just a little bit more worn making it all that more important that your CCV system is as unrestrictive as possible. While it is obvious that this type of system will never match a 4" long hose going to the low pressure side of the turbo intake the goal is to be a close as possible while getting ride of the oil that would other wise condense in our cold air intakes. I will have no hesitation to pitch the works in the garbage if can't keep my crankcase pressure down as I hate oil leaks more than I hate well I guess we can't talk politics here
 
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Old Apr 28, 2010 | 11:02 PM
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Here is a slide showing how I made mine. Sorry no pics and my camera is MIA. I have it mounted right behind my driver side shock tower and it provides easy access to drain. I used
-a 6" section of 2" PVC pipe
-2 pipe end caps
-a 90* 3/4 fitting
-a straight through 3/4" fitting
-a 6' length of 3/4" heater hose.
-a drain ****
-a APC breather filter Part#171096 that I got from advance for $10 it has a fine SS mesh and seems pretty durable
-a tube of PVC epoxy
-4 3/4" to 1 1/4" hose clamps
-2 3"-6" clamps

I basicly epoxied everything together like is shown in my slide and then mounted it to the frame behind the driver side shock tower using the large hose clamps. I did have to drill 2 holes in the frame to slide the clamps through but there are some holes already there, I also trimmed the plastic splash guard. The 3/4" hose is a pain to put on the CCV fittings at the engine, but it slides on snugly with lube and elbow grease. then secure everything with hose clamps. I'll try to find my camera and post a pic of it mounted. I have had this on for a month and just pulled a tablespoon of oil from it today.

 
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Old Apr 28, 2010 | 11:04 PM
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One of the things that will be a long term study for me is to monitor the crankcase pressure #1 starting with a base of a new system and following though. I think ambient
temperature has a lot to do with this as there is a lot of water vapor in crankcase vapor that will accumulate in the reservoir and lines thus I do believe this type of system has no place other than to belong in the engine compartment. Also the media used to condense the vapor has to remain none restrictive at all times. While it may not 100% I think it is pretty much a given that higher mile motors will throw more crankcase pressure and seals are just a little bit more worn making it all that more important that your CCV system is as unrestrictive as possible. While it is obvious that this type of system will never match a 4" long hose going to the low pressure side of the turbo intake the goal is to be a close as possible while getting ride of the oil that would other wise condense in our cold air intakes. I will have no hesitation to pitch the works in the garbage if can't keep my crankcase pressure down as I hate oil leaks more than I hate well I guess we can't talk politics here
Your 6.0L puts out a little over 8cfms of pressurized dirty/oily air ...the intake draws a vacuum of course that helps pull a little more. You are right about keeping this 8cfm of pressure non-restricted, but any good marine diesel mechanic will tell you a closed loop filtration system will work and has worked for decades...just ask the folks at Parker-Racor-Hanefin...they've been in the business of CCV filtration probably since before you were born...there is considerarble data already available...just have to do the research. The EPA bubbas pretty much made the decision for Ford and Navistar...which is where the 6.0L came in the picture (departing from the 7.3l)...along with the EGR regulations and Catalytic converters and now DPF filters...our engines were designed to eat their own %$$#....so we have to fix what we know is wrong. The CCV filter is a safe and environmentally efficient alternative to plugging it up or emmitting to the atmosphere. Check out the proven method of Parker's CCV 6000 (which may be a little more than needed for our 6.0Ls), but it works and anything less might be too restrictive as you mentioned.
 
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Old Apr 29, 2010 | 08:10 AM
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I agree 100% with the closed loop system but don't like the idea of getting the filtration component out on the frame rail of the truck. At 10 degrees and with a 70 mile wind chill factor I know you are going to have problems. Thats why I have to stick with a engine compartment solution. The only other place I might a shot at it passenger side of the truck using the exhaust to provide protect. Of course the flip side to this is the vapor will never condense and separate if it doesn't cool down which is one of the key goals.

Maybe a cold weather solution might be in order for these type of mount such as a insulation barrier of some type.
 
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