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Old Apr 24, 2010 | 09:00 AM
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I have a no start condition in my 05 f250. Had all the codes on all 8 injectors and the 611 which from the posts I've read here points to the FICM. I have the 48 volts on the FICM, but after key on, the voltage drops to 20 for a few seconds, (I think during the injector buzz test) then the voltage goes back to 48. The voltage from what I've read should stay at 48 volts. Is this correct? I took the voltage multiplier board out of the FICM and did the resolder, although I couldn't see any cracks in the solder. Put the FICM back in and still no restart and no codes.

I have the FICM back out and on the work bench. Have a 12 volt power supply hooked up. Monitoring the 48 volts while increasing the load. I took the load all the way up until the 10 amp breaker tripped on the 12 volt power supply and the 48 volts stayed solid.

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Old Apr 24, 2010 | 09:14 AM
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Did you read the latest repair info compiled by Pstrang which is now in the tech folder also. Have you had your batteries checked in your vehicle? It's possible that you lost the programming in your FICM and it may need to be reflashed. Checked the ICP pressure while cranking? Dash oil pressure while cranking?
 
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Old Apr 24, 2010 | 09:16 AM
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Has the truck run since you pulled the P0611 code which BTW indicates a power OR other internal FICM failure. It may not be repairable???
 
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Old Apr 24, 2010 | 09:35 AM
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I read Pstrang's post if I haven't read it. Read so many can't remember which is which. I've had the batteries checked. I'll have to put the FICM back in to crank and check ICP pressure. I know the dash oil pressure rises when cranking.

Had a friend (Ford service tech) come over with his laptop and a new FICM a couple days ago. He had computer problems and couldn't get communication. New FICM is setting on the seat and my friend hasn't called back yet. Thought I would take another shot at the FICM, get it to work and save a few hundred.

First no start was 12 miles from home. Towed the truck home. Cranked for a while next day and it did start. Drove it to the shop and connected the monitor. Shut it off and hasn't started since.

Do you know if the 48 volts should drop to 20 for a few seconds after key on?
 
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Old Apr 24, 2010 | 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by bbier64
I read Pstrang's post if I haven't read it. Read so many can't remember which is which. I've had the batteries checked. I'll have to put the FICM back in to crank and check ICP pressure. I know the dash oil pressure rises when cranking.

Had a friend (Ford service tech) come over with his laptop and a new FICM a couple days ago. He had computer problems and couldn't get communication. New FICM is setting on the seat and my friend hasn't called back yet. Thought I would take another shot at the FICM, get it to work and save a few hundred.

First no start was 12 miles from home. Towed the truck home. Cranked for a while next day and it did start. Drove it to the shop and connected the monitor. Shut it off and hasn't started since.

Do you know if the 48 volts should drop to 20 for a few seconds after key on?
That's why I asked about batteries. There a few things happening when you Key on--glow plugs being the largest draw. Does the voltage go up when the wait to start light goes out or is it a bit after that because the glow plugs can still be on even after WTS light disappears? Have you checked fuses and relays for anything PCM/FICM related?
 
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Old Apr 24, 2010 | 09:43 AM
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Got the info from pstrangs post and used to bench test the FICM. Thanks pstrang
 
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Old Apr 24, 2010 | 09:51 AM
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Voltage seems to go back up to 48 after buzzing stops. I'll have to get some long jumpers so I can see the WTS light.
 
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Old Apr 28, 2010 | 02:43 AM
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Here's a question:-

Will the FICM eventually lose it's programming if left disconnected from battery power??
 
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Old Apr 28, 2010 | 05:42 AM
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Originally Posted by DJR96
Here's a question:-

Will the FICM eventually lose it's programming if left disconnected from battery power??
FICM programming is stored in NVRAM/flash. Won't lose programming if disconnected from power.

Jason
 
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Old Apr 28, 2010 | 07:08 AM
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It is possible for the FICM to have its programming corrupted.
 
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Old Apr 28, 2010 | 07:10 AM
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Originally Posted by bbier64
but after key on, the voltage drops to 20 for a few seconds, (I think during the injector buzz test) then the voltage goes back to 48. The voltage from what I've read should stay at 48 volts. Is this correct?

Start with battery / terminal / wiring issues going into the FICM.

Follow link below to ensure that you have solid and clean power going into the FICM.

What is voltage when cranking?

It should be above 10V.
 
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Old Apr 28, 2010 | 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted by JasonInBTR
FICM programming is stored in NVRAM/flash. Won't lose programming if disconnected from power.

Jason
Cheers Jason.

Hope not. It's been over two years without power now. And being in Australia, I can't just go down to my local dealer to get it re-flashed.
 
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Old Apr 28, 2010 | 08:25 AM
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Cheers Jason.

Hope not. It's been over two years without power now. And being in Australia, I can't just go down to my local dealer to get it re-flashed.
No problem mate! Gearloose has a point about the FICM (or any other programmable module for that matter) getting corrupted but this is very unlikely from simply having power removed. Would take a significant surge or short to corrupt the flash.

Jason
 
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