Does anyone know where I can find a transmission adapter to fit a 93 F150 5 speed on my 49 flathead? Thank you all for the help.

 

The Mazda M5R2 5-speed in the '93 has an integral small block Ford bellhousing. Speedway Motors sells a flathead to SBF adapter kit, but it's designed for automatics. It's the only bellhousing plate style adapter that I'm aware of. The block adapter plate would probably work for you, but the other parts of the kit will not. You'd still have to figure out how to get a proper flywheel and starter onto it. The small block Fords were externally balanced, so there's no way that a flywheel off of one of them could be used on a flatty without serious vibration issues and engine damage. The 4.9L 300 cubic inch straight 6, however, also used this bellhousing bolt pattern and transmission. It had a neutral balance like the flathead. If you could find a 4.9L flywheel and get an adapter ring made the same thickness as the bellhousing plate that would bolt it to the flathead crankshaft, then it just might work. You could then use the starter, clutch, and all the other parts that were on the '93. It'll be an expensive and time consuming proposition to make this all happen, though.

If you really want a 5-speed manual, consider finding a Ford or GM T-5. There are several adapters available for that swap. It would be much less expensive and a whole lot simpler in the long run.

 

Gee what tranny would that be? Take a look in here http://www.motivegear.com/tech_info/...nny_guide.html. Then let us know.

 

Try these guys; Adapters | Engine & Transmission Conversion Adapters - Advance Adapters

 

I was thinking of keeping the flathead bellhousing, and use an adapter plate to mount the tranny to it. Is that not possible?

 

I don't think so, but anything is possible. IMO you would be better off with a NV4500. I should add that I put a T19 behind my FH and at this point and time I don't see a need for the overdrive.

 

The transmission in the '93 has an integral bellhousing. It's part of the transmission case. The only way to get it on a different engine is with an adapter plate between the engine block and the transmission.

It would definitely cut the mustard, but that's a lot of tranny behind a 100 HP flatmotor. They weigh twice what a T-5 does and it would take a lot more HP to operate it.

 

49 FORD F1,
i searched the web for about a mouth for the t5 swap,the best thing i found was this.

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and this

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read those,if you have any questions just ask.all i need is the adapter housing from speedway to complete this.most of the rest of the parts i got from Napa.
my truck is a 50 merc m-68 (f3),so i will keep my clutch and pressure plate and use a 11" disc with a1"x14 spline.Napa has a 1330 (ford) x1310 (t5) u-joint for the drive shaft.
i have not finish this yet,but i dont see the rest of it being very much trouble.
if i can help in any way just ask.

 

The SROD-type trannies can be fitted to the flattie hogshead with an adapter, I've seen it done with the same type used for the T5. Good results from the reports I've seen, shifter position is pretty good. But it won't clear the crossmember in an F-1, needs another inch or two. Dick/4TL8Ford measured it all up, maybe he'll chime in.

 

It would definitely cut the mustard, but that's a lot of tranny behind a 100 HP flatmotor. They weigh twice what a T-5 does and it would take a lot more HP to operate it.[/quote]

What is the HP statement based on?

 

The first one is the best one I've seen too!

 

Ok thanks I'll check them out. Is there not a 5 speed that the shifter will come through the factory shifter hole and you don't have to fab the cross members?

 

Look at the stock 3-sp; it's barely a foot long. No tailhousing. If you can get an F-2/3 crossmember from a 4-sp, it would probably allow a lot of these to fit (I think even the T5). But you really nbeed the cab off the frame to swap crossmembers.

 

cab is off getting work done to it.

 

The data tag in the glovebox. The tag in my '52 says 96 HP. I know your plant is making more than twice that, but I consider that to be quite the exception. Most of them would be lucky to turn 150 with careful tuning and standard bolts-ons. We don't all have beautiful pro-built multicarbed French flatties! Us mere mortals are stuck drooling over yours. The NV4500 is a monster found in heavy-duty trucks. It just seems like overkill to me. Not arguin', just sayin'! I would LOVE to have one in my F-2 behind the injected 351, though! Know where I can get one for less than a grand?!?

49 Ford F-1,

Like Ross said, you're not going to get ANYTHING besides a stock tranny in there without crossmember mods. It's just the way it is. The OE tranny crossmember is a structural member of the frame and it's HUGE.