IS IT UNUSUAL OR RARE TO HAVE BOTH SIDES WITH NOTCHED FENDERS AND SPARE TIRE CARRIERS?

THANKS,

MIKE

 

I would say so, why would you need 2 spare tires?

 

for people that run really cheap tires or course. or construction trucks that are alway in nails and rocks. I would say definitely not factory tho.

 

The Dealership would put what ever Special Order or Option that was available on a Vehicle that the Customer wished to be Added if it wasn't done @ the Factory.

 

ok. i realize why and how the fenders and carriers might be put there but ive never seen a 59 this way. my question was how unusual or rare is that configuration? has anyone seen one tnis way?

thanks for the info.

mike

 

It's not unusual or rare...it's IMPOSSIBLE!

Ford did not offer a right rear Flareside fender with the tire well (cutout) used for the spare tire.

The following was all that was available:

B7C16313B (replaced BAAA16313B) .. Flareside Left Rear Fender-Includes Tire Well / Fits: 1953/79 F100 / 1975/79 F150.

B7D16313A (replaced BAAD16313A) .. Flareside Left Rear Fender-Includes Tire Well / Fits: 1953/79 F250.

 

See, you are special! You have accomplished the impossible!

We have another thread running where we are talking about these indents. They were not availiable on the 51/52 F1s either but I have seen many of them. I actually modified my right rear fender to hold a spare tire and installed a carrier and it was not that difficult. So, it's probably safe to say your right fender (or possibly both - the left may not be a stock indent in the fender) has been modified by a PO or shop.

I would venture to say that one of the previous users of your truck used it to haul a trailer of sorts and may have carried an extra spare for the tow on the truck - possibly for trips. Just a guess.

Seeeee - right side - 51 truck - also impossible (stock from the factory) but later modified!

 

Julie, do you happen to have the following?

The Standard Catalog of Light Duty Ford Trucks / krause.com / ISBN: 0-87349-411-3

On page 90 there's a pic of a 1952 F1 with a RIGHT rear fender tire well.

It's not a factory photo (like most of them in this book), cuz the truck has a front license plate, and wide whites.

White wall tires were next to impossible to obtain during the Korean War, even on brand new Cadillac's, Lincoln's and Packard's.

 

so im confused lol its a modified bed or what? were there companies that did this sort of stuff for dealers as an add-on? it sure looks original to me. it also has a brush guard. could it have been modified by a dealer for some sort of work truck?

thanks,

mike

 

Nope, I don't have one of those. But, I used the ISBN you posted, found one and bought it. Looks like a neat book to add to my collection!

But Bill - really, there's a picture of a 51 with a right side fender indent in the post above too. Doesn't mean it was factory installed, and that was my point above.

I'll be interested in seeing that picture - and I'll post it?

According to the latest info we have exchanged here, 54 was the first year that factory manufactured tire indents were installed on half ton trucks. Both the 51 and 52 sales brochures list the spare tire carrier as rear frame mounted, and no side mount was offered. The similar 53 documents do not show it but 54 does. Also, there is no side tire carrier or parts listed in any of the parts manuals for 48-52 - that I can find.

So, unless this is new info, from a previous unknown official Ford pub, I would say that the picture is also of a dealer, shop, or owner modification.

Could be wrong, new info and the ever popular exception to every rule seem to be rampant with Ford trucks!

 

FoMoCo Dealer's body shops could and did make all sorts of modifications, as could other body shops.

There were 100's of different body makers back then that made all sorts of modifications, one of which was with Crew Cabs.

Ford didn't offer their own version until mid-year 1965. All previous Crew Cabs were made from regular cab pickups by Crown Coach, Armbruster, Superior, Sayers & Scoville, Hess & Eisenhardt and etc.

Marmon Herrington offered a Ford version of the Chevy Surburban in 1950, calling it the Ranger. It began life as a panel truck and was converted by M-H to 4WD.

Ford didn't offer factory installed 4WD in F100/250's until 1959, in F600's until 1971, in F350's until 1979.

Any of these trucks you see prior to these specific years w/4WD, they are Marmon-Herrington or NAPCO conversions.

M-H not only converted trucks to 4WD, but Passenger Cars and Station Wagons as well.

The first year they did this with Ford's (AFAIK) was in 1934 for ARAMCO (Arab/American Oil Company).

 

Hi Mike,

Despite my poking, when it comes to parts and what was created, if Bill has a part number, he's spot on!

So if the Ford factory didn't put those indents in the right side, then someone else had to - right? Modified the fenders - not the hole bed. It's very simple to do. The dealers had a VERY large role in installing A LOT equipment on these trucks. And there were lots of "Body Shops" that specialized in body modifications and accident repair. Body and sheet metal work was a real art back then.

Go to my galleries and look at the entire process in the gallery labeled "Spare Tire Carrier." Took me about 5 hours to do from a to z.

 

These trucks were not only sold in the US. If you were driving down the Baja in 1959, you would probably have more than two tire failures.

 

But Julie - really...you missed something.

I said that the photo of the truck shows a front license plate and it has wide whites on it, so it's not a factory photo.

It was prolly taken at around the same time this book was first published (2003) maybe by the author, John Gunnell.

Here's another book you can add to your collection: Pickup Trucks by Mike Mueller / MBI Publishing / ISBN: 0-7603-1842-5.

Want more? In beautiful downtown Burbank on Magnolia Blvd. you'll find Autobooks/Aerobooks. This is the only auto related bookstore I know of in the US.

Every time I go there, I spend well over 100 bucks. Tis one reason why I have over 3,000 auto/truck related books in this menagerie...and that does not include parts catalogs.

 

Agreed! I think we are saying the same thing - just you say "potato" and I say "potato" (that doens't work in e-mail does it)