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Old Apr 21, 2010 | 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Cardiac69
OK, got the new front brake hoses. The brake line came loose very easily from the calipers, but how do they attach to the brake line coming down from the master cylinder? They are threaded inside and have a bracket and clip on it. I don't see how it comes apart?

Here is a picture of it:

Thanks,

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Does this new one look exactly like your old one?
If it does, thats good. If it doesn't, it's the wrong part.
Nothing comes apart on this hose.( the clip holds the hose to the bracket)
That bracket needs attached to the frame where the old bracket hose is, the same direction, I believe then you will find out which is the right and left hose. A hard brake(metal)line will screw into the end with the bracket and threads. Your comment (came loose very easily from the calipers) they should not have came off very easily. was it wet around the bolt?
Don't forget to put those new brass washers on that new caliper end.
 
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Old Apr 21, 2010 | 01:18 PM
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Thanks Moto57, I'm an idiot. Once I got the bracket loose from the frame rail, I saw that it was just a threaded fitting. Changed the left hose, now for the right.

What I meant about the caliper bolt being easy is that with my luck, I usually have to PB Blaster the crap out of stuff and then it still strips. I should have said that it came off uneventfully

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Old Apr 21, 2010 | 04:07 PM
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Just great. Didn't solve the problem. The hoses seemed to be in good shape.... Next idea?
 
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Old Apr 21, 2010 | 05:28 PM
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Go to the dealership, slip into the brake area and ask the mechanic what it is. (I have done that before).
 
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Old Apr 22, 2010 | 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Cardiac69
Just great. Didn't solve the problem. The hoses seemed to be in good shape.... Next idea?

Dont trun right. there ya go.

OR
What EXv10 said. Ask a dealer mech.????

I have asked a few people and they said the same things said here. Been following along. Its beyond me without being there. Good luck bro.
 
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Old Apr 22, 2010 | 09:03 AM
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Just great. Didn't solve the problem. The hoses seemed to be in good shape.... Next idea?

Cardiac69, Dude your doing everything right. Sometimes though you might have looked at the problem to long,and lt's time to let it go. I would take the advise of EXv10,and bring it in to a Ford dealership that has the must Super duty's in the shop,and either talk to a tech,or let them take a stab at it. You've already done most of all the hard stuff anyway. They may have a Tsb that you don't know about,or maybe a tech may have seen it before. Hey hold your head up man. You've done a good job.
 
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Old Apr 22, 2010 | 09:34 AM
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I would have bet good money on the lines... Does the ABS work? Any lights on at the dash? If you've done the bleeding a couple of times you may have air in the ABS pump. You need a good scan tool which can cycle the ABS pump while bleeding in order to truly get everything out. The DIY method is to bleed like you've done and then go and engage the brakes hard enough for the ABS to kick on a few times - then redo the bleeding process.
 
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Old Apr 26, 2010 | 02:30 PM
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No dash lights on. ABS works fine. Went and asked @ the local Ford shop and they had never heard of this. I don't know which way to go now....
 
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Old Apr 26, 2010 | 03:10 PM
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If I were at wits end, I think I would try bleeding the brakes 'the old fashioned way'. Use a helper to open bleeders while depressing the brake pedal. Place a block of wood or something under pedal to prevent it from going beyond 'normal' range - or ya risk damaging mstr cylinder.

The pull to the right is very suspect. Usually, I would look for a stuck caliper or slide pin on LEFT side of truck for this...

Losing pedal pressure only after right turn is just plain bizzaro man!!

Do the gas-powered trucks use a vacuum-powered brake booster? Is that vacuum connected to auto-hub system? Just reaching here, but could the hose at wheel lose some vacuum when turning right? :shrug:
 
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Old Apr 26, 2010 | 03:26 PM
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If I were at wits end, I think I would try bleeding the brakes 'the old fashioned way'. Use a helper to open bleeders while depressing the brake pedal. Place a block of wood or something under pedal to prevent it from going beyond 'normal' range - or ya risk damaging mstr cylinder.

The pull to the right is very suspect. Usually, I would look for a stuck caliper or slide pin on LEFT side of truck for this...

Losing pedal pressure only after right turn is just plain bizzaro man!!

Do the gas-powered trucks use a vacuum-powered brake booster? Is that vacuum connected to auto-hub system? Just reaching here, but could the hose at wheel lose some vacuum when turning right? :shrug:
They have been bled so much I am wearing out the bleeder screws!! Yes, they do have a vacuum booster. Except, my lines for the hubs have been removed and plugged last year when I put on my manual hubs. I did re-check those to make sure they are still good.

It is getting real close to camping season and I would like to have this rectified before our first trip.....
 
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Old Apr 26, 2010 | 03:27 PM
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for my 2 cent worth , i'd flush the whole brake fluid system though , change all of it. if as not as much as you can.
there may be dirt in the brake lines and thats stopping the flow when your turning , i would imagine that it would be in the front as thats when the problems start , by turning the steering.
flush through a few pints into a clear bottle and you should hopefully notice some black bits , probably rust from within the metal brake lines. remembering to top up with New fluid otherwise you will bring air into the syatem.
 
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Old Apr 26, 2010 | 03:29 PM
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just to add , i did say flush , not just bleed , put a few pints though.

i did this last month and was amazed at the color of the fluid that came out , along with some nasty bits.
 
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Old Apr 26, 2010 | 03:31 PM
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No dash lights on. ABS works fine. Went and asked @ the local Ford shop and they had never heard of this. I don't know which way to go now....

Cardiac i feel for ya. have not been on in a while and see you are still working on this. I am seaching around for some other info for ya. try this for now. Car Information, Automotive Questions and Answers - Auto Repair Help
 
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Old Apr 26, 2010 | 03:31 PM
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also just noticed your sig , whats a "Prodigy Brake Controller " , could this be a problem ?? or giving one ??? is it easy to remove , for testing purposes ?

there ya go 4cents worth now
 
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Old Apr 26, 2010 | 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Cardiac69
They have been bled so much I am wearing out the bleeder screws!! Yes, they do have a vacuum booster. Except, my lines for the hubs have been removed and plugged last year when I put on my manual hubs. I did re-check those to make sure they are still good.

It is getting real close to camping season and I would like to have this rectified before our first trip.....
Cardiac, give me a run down on how this started and what you did so far.

I am working on a contact.

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