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Old Apr 14, 2010 | 12:45 AM
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Solved my city mpg problem

So after driving 4 or 5 tanks of gas or so on my new to me f150, I had discovered that I had a strange mpg problem. I could get almost 20 mpg on the highway but only 8-10 in the city, always averaging about 12.5. The truck runs great, it’s a 94 extended cab 4.9 auto with 210K miles. It's been bazaar to me how my gas mileage can be so good and so bad.

Well I figured it out. I’ve only used the rear tank since I’ve had it, and I did check the front tank when I bought it and it was empty. So today I decide to flip the switch, and surprise, the gauge goes to ¾ tank. I guess gas is being pumped from the back tank to the front. Drove it 40 miles today on the front tank, it works fine. That is where my gas is going

I’ve done some research and this problem seems mainly with 89 to 93 f150s

I’m so happy to solve my poor city gas mileage problem, but now should I worry about this? Or just run it off the front tank? I assume when you switch to the front tank the back tank quits pumping. Is this problem common for 94 and later trucks?
 
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Old Apr 14, 2010 | 04:37 AM
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The crossflow issue was supposed to be resolved for the slightly newer trucks. It was more common on the older trucks, but my friend's 96 had it, until he put a new fuel pump in it.
 
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Old Apr 14, 2010 | 09:11 AM
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I bet your mileage numbers are wrong because of this, also. You're probably getting closer to 14 around town and 17/ 18 highway.
 
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Old Apr 14, 2010 | 09:41 AM
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so how does the crossflow work? I'm curious because I have a 92 with 2 tanks
 
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Old Apr 14, 2010 | 10:51 AM
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Pulls from one tank but returns into the other, the switchover valve gets stuck and causes it - I didn't know gassers have that issue too, but with diesels (at least the older ones) it's a very common thing as the stupid assembly actually has two valves inside it, one for the supply and one for the return lines, and it's usually the return one that gets stuck for whatever reason.
 
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Old Apr 14, 2010 | 11:05 AM
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Whichever tank is getting filled is the tank that needs a new pump.
 
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Old Apr 14, 2010 | 11:12 AM
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BCHauler, you think them one-way check-valves are leaking at the pump?
 
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Old Apr 14, 2010 | 05:41 PM
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There have been a couple of diagrams posted on how the FDM's work, but basically, both pumps are plumbed into the same lines. When you select a tank, that FDM is energized and the return valve opens for that FDM. The valve is inside the FDM body. My understanding is that, when the crossflow happens in these setups, the return valve sticks open in the other tank and some or all of the returning fuel bleeds off into that tank. I don't think they are serviceable.
 
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Old Apr 14, 2010 | 10:05 PM
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I have the dual tanks on my truck and I think I am one of the lucky few.
 
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Old Apr 14, 2010 | 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by BCHauler
There have been a couple of diagrams posted on how the FDM's work, but basically, both pumps are plumbed into the same lines. When you select a tank, that FDM is energized and the return valve opens for that FDM. The valve is inside the FDM body. My understanding is that, when the crossflow happens in these setups, the return valve sticks open in the other tank and some or all of the returning fuel bleeds off into that tank. I don't think they are serviceable.
Ah, okay so just like the diesels then - only we have two valves and one pump, but it's still the return valve that sticks and makes a mess - go figure why, since both valves are actuated by the same motor
 
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Old Apr 15, 2010 | 01:04 AM
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So if I am understanding this correctly I should only have a problem if the front tank is full and I'm using the rear tank because the return line could overflow the front tank? If that is the case then I will just use the front tank. It is yet to be determined if the front tank is pumping to the rear tank. I don't think that it is.

Bill, you are probably right, but I hope your wrong. When ever I figure out a for sure way to measure mileage I will report.
 
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Old Apr 15, 2010 | 02:24 AM
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You can still use the rear tank, just don't switch to it before the front tank is empty - basically you fill both tanks and run off the front one till it's empty (thus you have plenty of space in it for the return flow through the bad valve), then you switch to the rear tank and run it till it reads empty too (which will happen much faster than it did with the front tank), then switch back to the front tank to use up all the extra fuel that should have gone back to the rear tank in the first place but never made it cause of the stuck valve.
 
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