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Cargo Master
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Anyone seen this before?
I need to replace the bushings in my spring eyes. A fellow member says that the LMC parts are a decent product so I am going with them. However LMC lists a 1 1/8" id and a 2" id bushing for the front. My front is a 1 1/8" and my rear bushing is a 2" on the same spring! Both sides! I was wondering if I got some sort of hermaphrodite spring or if others have seen this too?
It sucks I got to wait a full two weeks to buy the bushings so I can do that and new shocks on the same day. I think my front shocks are ok but my rears are so corroded and dented I think they need to be done now. So my disc brakes are on hold for now untill the suspension is done. However I will have all new suspension bushings, shocks, and disc brakes by the end of june.
As Johny Cash sang........I got it one piece at a time, but it cost me alot of dimes!
It sucks I got to wait a full two weeks to buy the bushings so I can do that and new shocks on the same day. I think my front shocks are ok but my rears are so corroded and dented I think they need to be done now. So my disc brakes are on hold for now untill the suspension is done. However I will have all new suspension bushings, shocks, and disc brakes by the end of june.
As Johny Cash sang........I got it one piece at a time, but it cost me alot of dimes!
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Some 61 through 63 and all 64 front leafs are small eye in front big eye in back. 100 Percent normal.
Garbz
R.E Howard wrote a novel about a town in ND called Whapeton called "The Vultures of Whapeton" about a gun slinger in the old west.The hero does not get the girl or ride off in to the sunset, it is a pretty dark story. R.E. Howard created Conan, King Kull, Solomon Kane.. One of the greatest pulp writers of the twenties and thirties. Just two letters switched but could be the same town? http://www.fantasticfiction.co.uk/h/...f-whapeton.htm I just struck me where the town name on your header was.
Garbz
R.E Howard wrote a novel about a town in ND called Whapeton called "The Vultures of Whapeton" about a gun slinger in the old west.The hero does not get the girl or ride off in to the sunset, it is a pretty dark story. R.E. Howard created Conan, King Kull, Solomon Kane.. One of the greatest pulp writers of the twenties and thirties. Just two letters switched but could be the same town? http://www.fantasticfiction.co.uk/h/...f-whapeton.htm I just struck me where the town name on your header was.
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I need to replace the bushings in my spring eyes. A fellow member says that the LMC parts are a decent product so I am going with them.
However LMC lists a 1 1/8" id and a 2" id bushing for the front.
My front is a 1 1/8" and my rear bushing is a 2" on the same spring! Both sides.
This is exactly what the parts catalog lists! Both sides.
I was wondering if I got some sort of hermaphrodite spring or if others have seen this too?
If you had the parts catalog, you'd see the same thing 10's of 1000's of parts guys have seen, since September 1960.
However LMC lists a 1 1/8" id and a 2" id bushing for the front.
My front is a 1 1/8" and my rear bushing is a 2" on the same spring! Both sides.
This is exactly what the parts catalog lists! Both sides.
I was wondering if I got some sort of hermaphrodite spring or if others have seen this too?
If you had the parts catalog, you'd see the same thing 10's of 1000's of parts guys have seen, since September 1960.Just think how much simpler things would be if you had the Ford truck parts catalog.
1961/64 F100/250 2WD:
C1TZ5348A .. Rear of front Spring Bushing: 2.00" O.D. / 9/16" I.D. / 2 1/2" long.
C1TT5781D .. Front of front Spring Bushing: 1 1/8" O.D. / 9/16" I.D / 2 1/2' long.
And...you wouldn't have to wait weeks to get these, because...
SOEBY MOTOR CO. in Walhalla ND has two of each: 701-549-3711.
GREEN SALES CO. in Cincinnati OH has eleven of the front bushings, four of the rear bushings: 800-543-4959.
I wonder where LMC is getting them from...that takes soooo long for you to receive them.
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Some 61 through 63 and all 64 front leafs are small eye in front big eye in back. 100 Percent normal.
Garbz
R.E Howard wrote a novel about a town in ND called Whapeton called "The Vultures of Whapeton" about a gun slinger in the old west.The hero does not get the girl or ride off in to the sunset, it is a pretty dark story. R.E. Howard created Conan, King Kull, Solomon Kane.. One of the greatest pulp writers of the twenties and thirties. Just two letters switched but could be the same town? The Vultures of Whapeton by Robert E Howard I just struck me where the town name on your header was.
Garbz
R.E Howard wrote a novel about a town in ND called Whapeton called "The Vultures of Whapeton" about a gun slinger in the old west.The hero does not get the girl or ride off in to the sunset, it is a pretty dark story. R.E. Howard created Conan, King Kull, Solomon Kane.. One of the greatest pulp writers of the twenties and thirties. Just two letters switched but could be the same town? The Vultures of Whapeton by Robert E Howard I just struck me where the town name on your header was.
ND- I think I am going to go with Dennis carpenters kit that does all the bushings and replaces the shackle. I find that the $200 for the kit is reasonable and trust him to produce a quality product. The 1 1/8" bushings are the same ones on the rear springs correct? I will try greensales and see what they want for the bushings for the rear.
I kinda enjoy doing buisness with a american company. I know alot of LMC stuff has china stamped in it. The rest seems to be DC stuff that was marked up. So I dont do a ton of buisness with them.
PS-The reason for the two week wait is I gotta wait till next payday for more "play" money. The wife would get mighty angry if I tapped savings for my toy. I bought all new shocks this payday and next I will replace my front bushings. The folowing my rear. Then it will be back to piecing the disc brakes together.
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ND- I think I am going to go with Dennis carpenters kit that does all the bushings and replaces the shackle. I find that the $200 for the kit is reasonable and trust him to produce a quality product.
The 1 1/8" bushings are the same ones on the rear springs correct?
No, you're confused.
I will try greensales and see what they want for the bushings for the rear
Rear of front spring bushings...not bushings for the rear spring..
These are the bushings for the REAR of the front spring. They have nothing to do with the rear springs.
The 1 1/8" bushings are the same ones on the rear springs correct?
No, you're confused.
I will try greensales and see what they want for the bushings for the rear
Rear of front spring bushings...not bushings for the rear spring..
These are the bushings for the REAR of the front spring. They have nothing to do with the rear springs.
Check with these Ford Dealers to see what they want for their obsolete genuine Ford shackle kits.
You're concerned where the LMC kits are made, but...where do DC's kits come from?
2) C1TZ5304E .. Front Spring-Rear Bushing & Hardware Kit
NORTZ & VIRKLER FORD in Lowville NY has FOUR = 315-376-6594.
KINSEL L/M in Beaumont TX has TWO = 800-816-2894.
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2) C1TZ5304G .. Front Spring-Front Shackle, Bushing & Hardware Kit.
SOEBY MOTOR CO. in Walhalla ND has TWO = 701-549-3711.
AITKEN MOTOR CO. in Aitken MN has TWO = 218-927-2169.
NORTZ & VIRKLER FORD has SIX.
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Notice I typed: 2) before each part number.
"Front Spring-Front" = This means the parts are for the front of the front spring.
"Front Spring-Rear" = This means the parts are for the rear of the front spring.
If you had asked for REAR spring parts, I would have typed: REAR Spring-Front & REAR Spring-Rear.
I know all this jazz can be confusing, hell...I was confused the first time I looked these parts up many moons ago.
But...it makes sense once you understand it...and it's really the only way the parts can be listed...and that's how they're listed in the parts catalogs.
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I got the front spring-front, front spring-rear thing. I just did not know if they were for both sides.
Did ford originaly use lockwashers or nylock nuts? My front bushing bolts are a very, very rusty bolt with a lock washer. My rear bushings which are shot but not nearly as bad have nylocks. I have a strange suspession that the fronts might be 46 years old! That could explain why the bushing material is completely gone and the bushing "eye" is worn through.
I hope that I havent damaged my springs through my negligence. To be honest I havent looked at the bushings in three years. I got the truck and then checked to see if I could grease them. They were bad then but I kinda lapsed it out for a while.
While you are up did they ever utalize the 1650lbs rate rear spring with the auxilery overloads? Based on the info I've gathered the 1250 rates were the heaviest one could get with the overloads.
Did ford originaly use lockwashers or nylock nuts? My front bushing bolts are a very, very rusty bolt with a lock washer. My rear bushings which are shot but not nearly as bad have nylocks. I have a strange suspession that the fronts might be 46 years old! That could explain why the bushing material is completely gone and the bushing "eye" is worn through.
I hope that I havent damaged my springs through my negligence. To be honest I havent looked at the bushings in three years. I got the truck and then checked to see if I could grease them. They were bad then but I kinda lapsed it out for a while.
While you are up did they ever utalize the 1650lbs rate rear spring with the auxilery overloads? Based on the info I've gathered the 1250 rates were the heaviest one could get with the overloads.
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I got the front spring-front, front spring-rear thing. I just did not know if they were for both sides.
Did ford originaly use lockwashers or nylock nuts?
See below.
While you are up did they ever utalize the 1650lbs rate rear spring with the auxilery overloads? Based on the info I've gathered the 1250 rates were the heaviest one could get with the overloads.
Dunno...I've have to look. Does this pertain to the front or rear springs?
Did ford originaly use lockwashers or nylock nuts?
See below.
While you are up did they ever utalize the 1650lbs rate rear spring with the auxilery overloads? Based on the info I've gathered the 1250 rates were the heaviest one could get with the overloads.
Dunno...I've have to look. Does this pertain to the front or rear springs?
One each: Bushing-Upper / Bushing-Lower / Shackle / 33848S8 nut / 34671S2 nut / B7TZ5465A bolt / 374727S8 bolt / 34810S7 lockwasher / 34810S8 lockwasher
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Son of a gun. I bet I have the originals on the front. Damn well enginered if the made it to 2006 in a semi intact state. One would think that the rubber would dry out after 40+ years and crack in a kit though.
I will call on monday and see what they say. You healing up well I assume?
I will call on monday and see what they say. You healing up well I assume?
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I ordered them today ND. The kit from Sobey motors had 1) 1 1/8" bushing and 1) 7/8" bushing. I hope this is correct. The one dealer from New York had a kit that had 1) 2" bushing and 1) 7/8" bushing with a final part suffex of "E" so I think that that ws for the 60/61 trucks with their larger eye.
To be honest not only did you get me genuine Ford parts you saved me about $120! Thanks.
To be honest not only did you get me genuine Ford parts you saved me about $120! Thanks.
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One more thing,
Do you have a lead on the P/N for the Bushings on the rear of the truck? They are about totaly gone too and would like to replace them as well.
Once again ND, Thanks a ton you help us out alot.
Do you have a lead on the P/N for the Bushings on the rear of the truck? They are about totaly gone too and would like to replace them as well.
Once again ND, Thanks a ton you help us out alot.
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I ordered them today ND. The kit from Sobey motors had 1) 1 1/8" bushing and 1) 7/8" bushing. I hope this is correct. The one dealer from New York had a kit that had 1) 2" bushing and 1) 7/8" bushing with a final part suffex of "E" so I think that that ws for the 60/61 trucks with their larger eye.
It sounds like to me that you need two - 1 1/8" bushing kits for the front of the two front spring eyes, but the 7/8" bushings are NOT correct for the rear of of the front spring eyes..... rather you need two of the 2" bushing kits, correct?
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