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What is my GCWR??

I have an e99 F-350, 4x4, dually with 7.3 and 4.10 rear, I believe my GVW is 11,500. My owners manual only has reading for gas engines, and the diesel suppliment is no help there. I know I can legally tow under 26,000 w/o a CDL, but is the a limit I gotta stay at which is under 26k?
 
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Check the door tag and your VIN.
 
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fleet ford will not have it going back that far, but you might try to register here:
https://www.flmowner.com/servlet/Con.../Page/HomePage

You will need your vin. Also a handy site to track maint, check recalls, get service coupons ect.
26K is the max for your drivers license, but your combined gross (truck and trailer) is most likey less than that.
 
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David, I couldn't log in to see the page, but 20,000 sounds about right. So what about when my 8400lb truck (with me in it) was towing a 13,000lb 5th wheel, basically I'm over?
 
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Technically, yes. But frankly, I've towed as much as 13,500 gooseneck with my setup and not had any troubles. I just wanted good trailer brakes. My GCWR is 20k also.

Edit: I wouldn't want to do much more than that, though.
 
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I ask because how often do you see a F-350 towing lets say, a 6000lb 4-car trailer with 4 3-4000 lb cars on it, for a total of around at least 18,000lbs? Even with a CDL which allows you to tow over 26,000, I don't see how it's legal with a truck in our GCWR category. Hell, I know I can pull that much with what I'm putting to the ground, I just don't want to get a ticket for being over (if I ever towed that much)
 
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Just saw the manual, and now I understand. So basically if I'm at 8400 lbs, I can legally tow with a gooseneck or 5th wheel, 11600, right? Still cornfused on how I see guys towing 4 car trailers and flatbeds with friggin front end loaders on them

GCWR (Gross Combined Weight Rating)/Trailer Weights
Model
Rear axle
ratio
Maximum
GCWR-kg (lbs.)
Maximum trailer
weightkg
(lbs.) 1
F-250 3.73 9 072 (20 000) 4 536 (10 000)
F-350 3.73 9 072 (20 000) 4 536 (10 000)
F-350 (DRW) 4.10 9 072 (20 000) 4 536 (10 000)
F-450 4.88 11 794 (26 000) 4 536 (10 000)
F-550
(17 500 GVW)
4.88 11 794 (26 000) 4 536 (10 000)
F-550
(19 000 GVW)
4.88 11 794 (26 000) 4 536 (10 000)
1 Conventional/Class IV trailer hitch only. Fifth wheel trailer maximum
weights can be calculated by subtracting the GVW from the GCWR.
 
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What I don't know, and I've never seen anyone answer with direct evidence, is what the legalities are surrounding gross weights and such. I suspect it depends entirely on what state you are in.

Like in some states you have to license your truck for the amount of weight you want to carry and/or tow. In Oregon, light trucks have the same license as cars, no weights mentioned at all.

I don't really know how much Gross Axle, Gross Vehicle and Gross Combined Vehicle ratings are legal numbers or how much they are just factory recommendations.
 
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the GCVWR from ford is only a recommendation with no legal bearing.
 
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TexasRebel, now that's an answer I can handle! I like that response. So basically it comes down to, with a little advice from the manufacturer, and a lot of common sense, it's ok to tow what you want as long it's in the limits of the law / DOT. That's what I'm thinking....
 
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The limits of the law will be what your truck is registered for, the GVWR/GAWR of the truck, the GVWR/GAWR of the trailer.

Those are all legal numbers.
 
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I just looked at my title- pretty funny that California has my crew cab long bed dually weighing in at 5288lbs LOL! It does have a commercial listing on it, but I think in Ca that's all trucks unless you have a permanent sleeping set up in the bed, to where you can't use it for hauling crap- don't ask why this state is AFU...... There is also an "EB" code on the title, any idea what that means?
 
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I just titled my dually in Florida, and they said it weighs 5200 lbs....I said OK! give me the plate.
She gave me the option to up my GVW for a fee of course.
I forget the numbers, but I paid like $30 some odd dollars to up my GVW to 7999#,( and its highlighted on my registration, prob for the cop to see) but Now that I think about it, my truck almost weighs that empty.......If I get scaled I could be over weight with my two dogs in the truck.
You got me thinking now...I'll find out monday what the deal is.
I would assume thats just the truck gross, and not what Im pulling. But It still makes little sence to me.
I pull some heavy loads, and prob need to pay for the max GVW plates?
I'll post what I find.
 
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I think with your setup up the full 26K GCVW wouldn't be an issue I've towed more with a SRW F350. As for legalities some states are incredibly F'd up. Here all they have to do is look at the trucks GVW tag and the Trailers GVW tag, add them and if they are over 26K and you only have a class C you are in trouble, doesn't matter if you are pulling an empty trailer andphysically weigh 13K GCVW at the time. Meanwhile a 80 year old man who has never driven anything bigger than his Cadillac drives by in his new 40' motorhome legally with a class C and no schooling on it.
 


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