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Old Apr 2, 2010 | 10:22 PM
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Need help truck missing

Okay here it goes, Kupa'a and I where racing down the road, and as he came up to the side of me I put the pedal to the medal and as soon as I did that, i noticed a slight popping noise. wat da heck?! and after all that excitment I noticed my truck starting to have a miss. It does it in all tunes including stock. So I changed out the fuel filter that was really dirty. After changing out the filter I ran it for about three miles and it was back again. Does anyone know what could be the problem? (It misses really bad just off idle) Any info would be greatly appreciated.
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Old Apr 2, 2010 | 11:01 PM
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Okay check my codes I have PO603 Internal Ctrl Mod Kam Error and PO541 Manifold Intake Air Heater Circuit low. I did not have any SES light come on after the miss. What does code PO603 stands for?
 
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Old Apr 3, 2010 | 01:13 AM
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Okay removed F6 and its still missing. Its more noticeable under light throttle. When I have it in the higher tunes thats when you can really feel it . Feels like a miss at times and it also feels like the throttle/rpm flucuates alot. It almost feels like a really sensetive throttle. Can someone give me some tips on where to start?

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Old Apr 3, 2010 | 08:22 AM
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Any noises associated with the miss or can you just feel it? Any access to an AE? Maybe a bent push rod or injector issue.

P0603 means you have a chip. Ignore that one.
 
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Old Apr 3, 2010 | 08:44 AM
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The first thing I would do is pull the valve covers and look for a bent pushrod or broken rocker or both.
 
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Old Apr 3, 2010 | 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by F350-6
Any noises associated with the miss or can you just feel it? Any access to an AE? Maybe a bent push rod or injector issue.

P0603 means you have a chip. Ignore that one.
Chris there is no abnormal noise that I can hear. I also used a stethoscope. What is an AE? Also when I chage out the filter it ran fine for about 3 miles and then the miss was back. I will pull valve covers and look.

Thanks I will let you know what I find.
 
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Old Apr 3, 2010 | 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Kwikkordead
The first thing I would do is pull the valve covers and look for a bent pushrod or broken rocker or both.
Hey Dan I will pull VC today. If rod is bent or rocker arm broken is it difficult to fix?

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Old Apr 3, 2010 | 01:46 PM
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both a push rod and rocker arms are very easy to fix i just came in the house, im actually in the middle of fixing a bent pushrod right now, for the 3rd time, ha i like to drive fast
 
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Old Apr 3, 2010 | 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Gagew90
both a push rod and rocker arms are very easy to fix i just came in the house, im actually in the middle of fixing a bent pushrod right now, for the 3rd time, ha i like to drive fast
Gagew90 can you explain how and when your push rods went? I would like to see if it is similar to my situation.

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Old Apr 3, 2010 | 05:05 PM
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Does a bent push rod or broken rocker arm cause an erratic throtle response?
 
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bent push rods and/or broken rocker arms occur when the truck goes past the redline, when as you say put the pedal to the metal and the motor revs up while the transmission downshifts (common depending on your speed) right while the transmission is between gears, it can allow the motor to rev too far and then it breaks push rods or rocker arms, you'll hear a sound like a whomp whomp whomp, it can change a little depending on your exhaust or intake but thats generally what it is, you said you were racing and i can guarantee that this is the problem, you'll have to pull both valve covers then with two fingers pull on each push rod and visually inspect the rockers, the push rods are snug when its right, if your able to move the rod up and down and there is play in it unbolt the rocker arm and pull it out and replace it, new rods are $5 at the stealer, if a rocker is broken go over the head with a fine tooth comb and make sure you get any peices of metal, and the rockers roll on a ball bearing make sure you find that if one is broken. not to bad a couple hours of work if its your first time, while your in there too torque everything back down to spec, all rockers and injectors and do the 50 cent mod as well
 
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Old Apr 3, 2010 | 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Gagew90
bent push rods and/or broken rocker arms occur when the truck goes past the redline, when as you say put the pedal to the metal and the motor revs up while the transmission downshifts (common depending on your speed) right while the transmission is between gears, it can allow the motor to rev too far and then it breaks push rods or rocker arms, you'll hear a sound like a whomp whomp whomp, it can change a little depending on your exhaust or intake but thats generally what it is, you said you were racing and i can guarantee that this is the problem, you'll have to pull both valve covers then with two fingers pull on each push rod and visually inspect the rockers, the push rods are snug when its right, if your able to move the rod up and down and there is play in it unbolt the rocker arm and pull it out and replace it, new rods are $5 at the stealer, if a rocker is broken go over the head with a fine tooth comb and make sure you get any peices of metal, and the rockers roll on a ball bearing make sure you find that if one is broken. not to bad a couple hours of work if its your first time, while your in there too torque everything back down to spec, all rockers and injectors and do the 50 cent mod as well
Okay I will check as soon as posible. Now you mention the whomp whomp it sounded like a big gush of air. I also notice the rpms on my truck was always around 2500rpms and up close to red line. My broter-inlaw also notice the rpms are higher then his truck. What is the 50 cent mod?
 
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Old Apr 3, 2010 | 07:51 PM
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Im not an expert but based on whats happened i believe it is infact exhaust being forced back out the intake but i may be incorrect im not sure, the 50 cent mod is where you take a quarter and shave it down slightly and it will fit under the electronic harness on the valve cover to prevent it from coming loose, one on each side hence the name 50 cent mod, search the forum for a write up on it and when you take the valve cover off you'll be able to spot right where the quarter goes its pretty easy
 
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I'll go along with pretty much everything Gagew90 has said. The funny noises I asked about earlier would be the whomp whomp he described. Re-torquing the rocker arm pedestal bolts to 20 ft lbs and the lower injector hold down bolts to 120 in-lbs while you're in there is an excellent idea. I even think it's worth pulling the valve covers just to torque these things down and shim the UVCH connector to prevent future issues.

And AE is Auto Enginuity, a PC based scan tool where you can pull codes, run tests, and read live data on your engine.
 
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Old Apr 4, 2010 | 02:12 AM
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Could it be my TPS I check it with an ohm meter and the numbers where inconsistant?
 
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