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Old Apr 2, 2010 | 06:45 PM
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park brake cable issues

Hi everyone, I have a 66 f250 that I found out in the back woods. It showed signs of rust every where but I got to knocking on the metal and found only to be surface rust. I started to tear into it and found a frankenstein truck, 9 foot bed off of 64 f350, driver door off same truck( I had to hunt down the vin on the frame rail) engine is a 390 from 72, I am kind of curious about the wheels they are ford branded but they are 16 1/2 inch wheels, the seatbelts out of a chrysler vehicle. The previous owner was not mechanically incline, he put duct tape on the throttle bracket on the engine. My main question is about the park brake leveler bar and spring. As you can see in the picture its ziptied. What is suppost to go their?
 
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Old Apr 4, 2010 | 01:35 PM
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Interesting, not sure what you have there. Not sure if you have access to a view of the 'parking brake' system so posting a link to diag. obtained from the Ford Truck Parts Master Catalog. Found it difficult to tell from the pic in thread which components have been replaced, refabricated, or missing. It has been awhile since I have needed to search for parking brake components, seem to recall majority of the items can be purchased thru Ford parts supplier except for a couple, particularly a couple parts listed in the diag. under group 2631, which I was able to salvage from wrecking yard, ebay, and/or FTE member.

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Old Apr 4, 2010 | 02:39 PM
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From what I can tell from the photo; the zip tie is attached to the release/tenision spring to cross frame brace; can't see or tell from the other end; those parts can be found on trucks up thru 70's for sure to replace what you are missing.
I recommend going to a salvage yard and look under a truck and you'll be able to determine what's missing from your minus the spring / zip extension on yuors.
Sorry I can't help any better than that.

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Old Apr 4, 2010 | 03:22 PM
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I'm thinking that spring is supposed to have a longer tail on the rear so it can hook into a hole in the crossmember if there is one.
 
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Old Apr 4, 2010 | 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by merlynr
I'm thinking that spring is supposed to have a longer tail on the rear so it can hook into a hole in the crossmember if there is one.
I was out under my '61 today and it does have a longer tail on that end of the spring and hook into a hole on the leading edge of the crossmember. Guess the spring broke and somebody extended it's service life.
 
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Old Apr 4, 2010 | 05:18 PM
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Same with 65, tail extends beyond the width of the crossmember to prevent it from binding. Difficult to determine from diag. as it does not show the spring.

Arrow depicts location of said spring on my 65:

 
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Old Apr 4, 2010 | 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by merlynr
I'm thinking that spring is supposed to have a longer tail on the rear so it can hook into a hole in the crossmember if there is one.

That's exactly what's wrong with the spring from what i can tell; easy fix.
Put as the PO used duct tape on one cable; he kept his theme alive with the zip tie.

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Old Apr 4, 2010 | 06:39 PM
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It appears the spring in pic is connected to the rear equilizer bracket; item 2768/2A602, to somewhere else and not to the forward equilizer bar; item 2A605, could be mistaken. Seen worse examples of PO fixes, nothing like good reliable set of brakes.
 
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Old Apr 5, 2010 | 04:15 AM
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Originally Posted by unseenspeed
I am kind of curious about the wheels they are ford branded but they are 16 1/2 inch wheels,
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There are five different types of 8 lug 16.5" wheels on a 6.50" bolt circle. The tire size might be the determining factor inre to which wheel is on your truck.

1) 16.5" x 6" wheels: C7TZ1015A = 1967/70 F250/350 / .50" offset / Use with tube type tires.

2) 16.5" x 6" Heavy Duty wheels: D1TZ1015A = 1967/71 F250/350 / .50" offset / Use w/tubeless tires.

3) 16.5" x 6" wheels: D2TZ1015A = 1972/73 F250/350 / .50" offset / Use w/tubeless tires.

4) 16.5 x 6.75" wheels: D3TZ1015A (replaced C7TZ1015C): 1967/79 F250 Camper Special / 1975/79 E350 / .50" offset / Parts catalog sez: Use w/bias ply tires only.

These wheels take a special sized tubeless tire (9.50" x 16.5"). AFAIK, no one makes them anymore.

5) 16.5" x 9.75" wheels: D3TZ1015B = 1973/76 F350 Super Camper Special / 1977/79 F350 Regular Cab Camper Special / 1973/79 F350 Trailer Special / All on the 140" wheelbase / .50" offset.

The tubeless tires used with these wheels are 12.00" x 16.5"
 
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Old Apr 5, 2010 | 11:12 PM
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Thanks for the input, I hope that I can learn the proper names for these components ( nothing like trying to spell a word correctly and having to look it up in the dictionary and getting lost in the book.) but I still have some questions about where the spring hooks to the cross member, as there are no holes for it to attach. In Daveengelson's diagrahm, there is no mention of the spring? I looked at the spring and there are no broken or bent parts. I have two options of looking at another of the same year vehicle, I have to dig a hole under the truck ( no wheels and sunk into mud), second befriend someone in the next town. Thanks NumberDummy for the wheel info, I have 16.5 x 6.75 inch firestone rims stamped by ford.
 
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Old Apr 6, 2010 | 05:09 AM
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Originally Posted by unseenspeed
I still have some questions about where the spring hooks to the cross member, as there are no holes for it to attach.

In Daveengelson's diagram, there is no mention of the spring?
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I looked at the spring and there are no broken or bent parts.
The spring is not illustrated in the (1964/72 Ford Truck Parts Catalog) pic Dave posted (section 26, page 9), but it is shown in the next one (section 26, page 10).

This pic is for 1967/72, but the spring's hookup is the same.

C5TZ2A651A .. Parking Brake Lever Return Spring / 10 1/8" long, 13/16" diameter / Attaches from lever (#2A605) to crossmember.

Fits: 1965/66 F100/250 2WD // 1966 F100 4WD // 1967/72 F100 w/a 115" wheelbase // 1967/72 F350 w/a 135" wheelbase.
 
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Old Apr 6, 2010 | 12:27 PM
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Appears couple options when it comes to positioning the spring. As members noted, probly have better ideal of how the parking brake components tie together by getting underneath and checking out vehilce that's correct. Not sure I would worry about part i.d., as long as I could see how the cables are attached to a 'dokicky' that attaches to a 'thingofamob'. etc.
 
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Old Apr 6, 2010 | 10:52 PM
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Sorry about that Dave. Either my browser or my brain weren't working when I was reading all the reply's. I understand where you were stating the spring was located in reference to your truck. I did get a chance to look at a couple of 65/66 trucks, but the odd thing was that their were no springs, I know that there is a spring used and that it has a purpose. I have one more truck to look at, so I am off to befriend the owner in the next town. I will update.
 
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Old Apr 7, 2010 | 12:52 AM
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Posting pic of diag. Bill was referring to. There are couple different placement neither of which are same as my 65, but can't recall if I used the diag. when the 65 parking brake was reassemble.

http://www.fordification.com/tech/im...ingbrake01.jpg
 
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Originally Posted by unseenspeed
Hi everyone, I have a 66 f250 that I found out in the back woods. It showed signs of rust every where but I got to knocking on the metal and found only to be surface rust. I started to tear into it and found a frankenstein truck, 9 foot bed off of 64 f350, driver door off same truck( I had to hunt down the vin on the frame rail) engine is a 390 from 72, I am kind of curious about the wheels they are ford branded but they are 16 1/2 inch wheels, the seatbelts out of a chrysler vehicle. The previous owner was not mechanically incline, he put duct tape on the throttle bracket on the engine. My main question is about the park brake leveler bar and spring. As you can see in the picture its ziptied. What is suppost to go their?
hard to tell by your pic. A pic of mine that maybe will help?



 
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