I am in the market for a tuner for my truck. I have read here that the most popular one for our trucks is mad my SCT. I have gone to there web site and was overwhelmed, by more than one products for the 6.0L. Now can anyone describe me the benefits and draw backs on any of these different products. Livewire, SF3, X3, xcalibrator2 or the touch screen extreme.
Anyone with some knowledge in re guards to the differences would help a lot.

 

If I owned a 6.0 or a 6.4, I would trucks these guys and only these guys to tune it: Spartan Diesel Technologies

 

I spent a bunch of money on a spartan for my 6.0 - the thing loaded a tune on my truck - something went wrong and now I can't load any tunes nor get back to my stock configuration.

I have been trying to get an answer out of their tech support department since last July - NOTHING.


Everybody talks these guys up - but my experience with them has been terrible -

Now I'm having a turbo issue on my truck and I can't take it to the Ford garage because I can't load the stock tune or any other tune for that matter.

Not saying I'm without fault - but waiting for almost a year to get this thing fixed is crazy

 

Eric and the guys at Innovative have been great to me and write awesome tunes, A-1 customer service before, during and after the sale. I have a SCTx3

Jody at DP tuner is also very good. I have no experience with them but several here have used them with great reslutsl too.

Just remeber to watch your guages, if you have them, if you dont get them first. Dont tow with the tune installed unless its a tow tune.

Enjoy,

Sarge

 

I wouldn't get this one. You have a 50/50 shot of it being reliable. They still haven't fixed the screen issue. Now this doesn't affect everyone of them and you could luck out. Or, after awhile you could have a LiveWire that every so often has a screen that locks up.


This would definately be in the final 2 of a decision. Proven, simple and very easy to use. Barebones diagnostic capabilities as well. More then their Xcal 2 and easier to use then the Xcal 2 as well.



By far my favorite. If you can find a used one that is in good shape, this would be the best as far as just uploading tunes to and delivering those tunes to the truck. It skimps on diagnostic capabilities and with the screen readout, but a very nice package for just dealing with tunes.

I'm hesitant about this with just due to the bluetooth being utilized for the programming. Now a lot of people would say that bluetooth works fine, after the aviation industry uses it. Well that's true, but there is no way you can logical compare to what the aviation industry has access to compared to what we have access to.

Prime example is GPS. All y'all know the little circle that goes around the triangle that represents you and/or your vehicle? Well that circle signifies a certain amount of error. For our GPSs that error is a mininum of 300ft. I say min. because that varies with model and how good that model is. Yet the military GPSs that error is about 10ft if I remember correctly.

I'm sure there are a lot more differences between the two then that, I'm just trying to illustrate that what a big industry uses doesn't exactly translate to everyday civilian use. Our bluetooth is good, I just wouldn't trust it for tuning, but that's just me.

To scarm: I'm sorry that you seem to have a bad experience with Spartan, mine has been otherwise and I continue to use their products and do mention whenever someone lists them as a choice or are open for suggestions. We are even working on something else, but I'm straying.