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Old Mar 31, 2010 | 02:09 PM
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cali trucks have 130cc injectors i think and noncali's have 90cc
 
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Old Mar 31, 2010 | 02:17 PM
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is there a ez way to find out what injectors r in a truck with out having to take off the heads?
 
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Old Mar 31, 2010 | 02:32 PM
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Look at the glow plug relay, if it has a shunt, its a cali truck with bigger injectors, if it doesn't, its a noncali truck with smaller ones. Or run the vin to find out if its a cali.
 
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Old Mar 31, 2010 | 02:36 PM
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ok ill run the vin sorry i could call me self a 460 wiz but psd not so much.
 
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Old Mar 31, 2010 | 02:43 PM
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its all good, glad i could help.
 
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Old Mar 31, 2010 | 03:47 PM
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do the cal truck have single shot injectors or i they split shot?
 
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Old Mar 31, 2010 | 03:53 PM
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the calis have splits. they are the only ones that do.
 
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Old Mar 31, 2010 | 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by JamesHajek
cali trucks have 130cc injectors i think and noncali's have 90cc
They are rated 120cc but flow more like 130cc.
Another easy way to tell if its a CA truck with split shots- look at the fuel pump in the valley, if it has a black thing on the back that looks like the starship Enterprise (Star Trek) then it's a CA truck. The 96 I'm picking up has the starship enterprise and AB injectors but no shunt on the GPR.
And FYI, you don't have to pull the heads to see the injectors, just the valve covers.
 
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Old Mar 31, 2010 | 06:30 PM
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Also there is a label on the passenger side valve cover stating the engine complies with California emissions. The label is typically blue.
 
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Old Mar 31, 2010 | 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by superduty4x4
Splits are not more efficient necessarily, you are wasting part of your fuel squirt for a pilot shot to decrease noise and get a little pre-burn going on to help burn the fuel from the main shot. Split shots are also oil hungry little SOB's, the AB's aren't too bad but the AD's in the Super Dutys are real bad on oil use. Which is why most people go back to singles... less oil needed for the same amount of fuel.

That you for the correction. So after reading this it seems the split injectors are a 120 or 130 cc compared to the smaller 90cc singles for these years?

This was done to decrease the noise?

When you state oil use what do you mean? The oil volume used to actuate the injectors?
 
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Old Mar 31, 2010 | 07:17 PM
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That you for the correction. So after reading this it seems the split injectors are a 120 or 130 cc compared to the smaller 90cc singles for these years?

This was done to decrease the noise?

When you state oil use what do you mean? The oil volume used to actuate the injectors?
Yes, the AA injectors found in most OBS trucks are rated at 90cc. AB's found in the Cali tuned 96-97's and early 99's are rated at 120cc. The split shot design was so that the pilot shot could be injected and create heat in the cylinder to help burn the fuel from the main shot. It also helps to reduce the knock sound from the ignition of the fuel in the cylinder. And yes, when I said the AB's use more oil I meant they need a higher volume of oil to squirt the fuel since some of the oil is being "wasted" on the pilot shot. The AD split shots injectors in the late SD's (140cc) are really oil hungry, which is why they switched to a 17° HPOP also.
 
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Old Apr 1, 2010 | 11:50 AM
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That sound kind of crappy it use a lot of oil to fire the fuel will that put more stress on the high pressure oil pump or were the oil pumps in the cail truck mad just for that? I was looking on you tube an seen this vid of a guy changing the top half of the engine oil aka injector oil with the cali truck dose the oil get blacker quicker cuz it use more oil to fire each injector?
 
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That sound kind of crappy it use a lot of oil to fire the fuel will that put more stress on the high pressure oil pump or were the oil pumps in the cail truck mad just for that? I was looking on you tube an seen this vid of a guy changing the top half of the engine oil aka injector oil with the cali truck dose the oil get blacker quicker cuz it use more oil to fire each injector?
Ignore the dork on youtube for the most part.
No the split shot injectors will not put more stress on the HPOP system, they just drain it faster and can make the truck fall flat on the top end if you are WOT. In my early 99 that had AB's and a 15° HPOP at WOT in my 80eco tune the truck was struggling to hold 2200 psi at 90% DC if I remember right. But that was with my foot nearly on the floor pushing 26-27psi of boost and going about 90
 
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Old Apr 1, 2010 | 12:35 PM
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Ok i am more going to a non cali truck i like the idea that i dont have to deal with the egr an all the stuff that come with it. But what is the hp difference in a cali truck an a non cali truck? I know lot of questions just want to get as much info from people on here an other forums before i buy to know what i can expect. An r all 96-97 cail truck?
 
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Old Apr 1, 2010 | 12:42 PM
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cali trucks are 225 and noncali are 215 i think. and no, not all late 96-97 trucks are cali's.
 
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