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Old Mar 30, 2010 | 12:46 PM
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4.9 Header Question

I want to know if you guys that are using headers on 80-86 models had fittment issues? I want the least amount of trouble with a set of headers. Please do not suggest EFI manifolds I have a set I'm willing to get rid of cheap if anyone wants them say so. Pictures of the motor in the truck with the headers will be cool.
 
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Old Mar 30, 2010 | 01:49 PM
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The only issue you'll have is that you will need to clearance the backside of the alternator bracket, like so:


I apologize for the poor picture quality, but it was taken in the days of 35mm and scanners...
Otherwise, they will fit just fine.
Here's a couple installed pics:



The one pictured is Hedman part # 89-300.
 
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Old Mar 30, 2010 | 03:49 PM
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I have been looking for efi manifolds. How much for them?
 
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Old Mar 30, 2010 | 05:50 PM
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I too used the Hedman's. Clearance the hell out of the alternator bracket. The more you grind off and smooth down, the better it will all clink into place. Now would be a good time to chop off the smog pump like so...



I have a 2WD, and you CANNOT remove the starter from mine without removing the headers too, so check that clearance as well before you tighten everything down.
 
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Old Mar 30, 2010 | 06:33 PM
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So I have to grind the alternator bracket down on the back side. I paid 100$ total for them but I'd let them go for less shoot me an offer(I might have to have to ship them to you if you don't live in mid MO).
 
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Old Mar 30, 2010 | 06:37 PM
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Do any of you header guys have any seal troubles? Is there a special bolt that you can use to keep them from leaking?
 
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Old Mar 30, 2010 | 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by dwrestle
Do any of you header guys have any seal troubles? Is there a special bolt that you can use to keep them from leaking?
Fel-Pro metal gasket leaked like a sieve on me; ended up using Mr. Gasket # 260 to seal it. Used stock style bolts/studs (bought new). No problems so far...
 
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Old Mar 30, 2010 | 10:23 PM
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I never had issues with the gasket that came with my header.
However, pretty much every 300 I have ever been around has had the manifold bolts come loose on a semi-regular basis, so, checking them has always been part of my maintenance routine.
 
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Old Mar 30, 2010 | 11:40 PM
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So how much grinding would you say is involved here? I'm guessing everybody is using Hedman Hedders on here. I was kind of thinking Dynomax, but it doesn't seem like anybody on here has used them(at least not 80-86). They may have their own unique fittment issues that may not be as easy to mess with. So I guess I will go with Hedman Hedders.
 
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Old Mar 31, 2010 | 02:20 AM
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Originally Posted by dwrestle
So how much grinding would you say is involved here? I'm guessing everybody is using Hedman Hedders on here. I was kind of thinking Dynomax, but it doesn't seem like anybody on here has used them(at least not 80-86). They may have their own unique fittment issues that may not be as easy to mess with. So I guess I will go with Hedman Hedders.
Probably 3/8" deep worth of material I removed on mine, but it makes it much easier to get it apart.

Check out the headers Hooker makes (part # 6823HKR). AFAIK, they are the only tuned long tube header for the 300. Also a bit pricey, which is probably why most guys use the Hedmans; I have found nice Hookers used on Craigslist for about half the price, so you might score if you do some digging.
 
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Old Mar 31, 2010 | 09:22 AM
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If you haven't already done so, please consider replacing that rubber fuel hose that is getting IR blasted from the #2 exhaust port; bad things could happen to that clean engine compartment...
I would use new hard pipe or #6 braided steel hose such as Russell, Earls etc w/proper AN fittings. Cheap insurance.
 
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Old Mar 31, 2010 | 09:27 AM
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fiftyfordfloored,

Your engine and bay look sooo good! Very clean! What made you go with a flex-fan!
 
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Old Mar 31, 2010 | 10:16 AM
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Yes I agree your truck looks good with it's hood up. I would also like to hear about your flex fan. I thought about getting one because it's easy to install, and it's supposedly easier on all the parts hooked up to the belts or something.
 
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Originally Posted by Bern_F150_4x4
If you haven't already done so, please consider replacing that rubber fuel hose that is getting IR blasted from the #2 exhaust port; bad things could happen to that clean engine compartment...
I would use new hard pipe or #6 braided steel hose such as Russell, Earls etc w/proper AN fittings. Cheap insurance.
It's not routed that way anymore, the picture is about 6 months old; thanks for the advice though.

Used the Flex-Fan because the stock fan for what ever reason wouldn't fit the new pump I put on, and the old fan is both heavy and ugly by comparison. Also, it has the same color red as the truck, which I think contrasts the blue and makes it pop a little more.
 
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Old Mar 31, 2010 | 05:59 PM
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i have a headman header on my 84 and unless you plan for a 4 barrel intake and other mods you are wasting your time and money. they are a pain to install and keep from leaking. i had to put studs on mine with grade 5 hardware after the first gasket blew out. if i could go back i would have never touched it. dont plan on more power from it and if you have a 4x4 its pain to get the pipes past the transfer case. the only change was the tone at mid rpms. (not worth it unless you build the rest of the motor) if i could go back i would consider using the stock manifod and trying to put a turbo on the single pipe, then you will see a change!!! but i dont know how much intake change has to be made for boost
 
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