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Old Feb 28, 2011 | 12:56 PM
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you may have to prime it 2-4 or even 5 mins before all the lifters are full... just because you see oil rolling out doesn't mean they are fully primed. Are these new lifters or the old ones?
 
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Old Feb 28, 2011 | 01:03 PM
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The only thing i can tell you , that if you replaced a roller cam with a roller cam it will use the stock push rods and rocker arms , there is no adjustmeant on pedestal mount rockers , did it have any valvetrain noise before the cam swap , i think once its primed and started they will pump up , .....Lew
 
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Old Feb 28, 2011 | 01:18 PM
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If the lifters were pumped down , i don't think priming is going to pump them up all the way , when the motor starts the motion of the cam pushing on the lifters will pump them up , like a plunger , you can try turning the motor orver a few times ....
 
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Old Feb 28, 2011 | 01:32 PM
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The only way I would know for sure to check is by the book, and that is with the lifters bled down. They have a special tool to get extra leverage on the rocker arms, but you could probably bleed them down by bearing down with a hammer handle on the rocker arm.
 
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Old Feb 28, 2011 | 01:33 PM
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What don't you like about the kit? If I had the budget I know getting the heads done would be the way to go. But I am quickly running out of time and money.
 
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Old Feb 28, 2011 | 01:40 PM
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The only thing i can tell you , that if you replaced a roller cam with a roller cam it will use the stock push rods and rocker arms , there is no adjustmeant on pedestal mount rockers , did it have any valvetrain noise before the cam swap , i think once its primed and started they will pump up , .....Lew
I think this already sums it up... I would just put it back together and run it. Roller cam for Roller cam you shouldn't have a problem and some gap is expected.
 
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Old Feb 28, 2011 | 01:48 PM
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Just never seen or used that kit , it says not for compition use , i don't like press in studs eighter , i havent worked on many peadesatall mount rockers , most all my motors were stud mount , with the problem your having is whey i don't like non adjustable valves , the kit my work fine for you , did you put the rockers and push rods back in the same order , they all whare a little different , i think they make push rods that are just a litte longer for this problem
 
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Old Feb 28, 2011 | 01:52 PM
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I think this already sums it up... I would just put it back together and run it. Roller cam for Roller cam you shouldn't have a problem and some gap is expected.
...Yeah , i like to start them up the first time with the valve covers off to make sure everthing is good , its just a pain with the upper intake ....
 
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Old Feb 28, 2011 | 04:03 PM
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OK, I'll take a deep breath.... WOOO SAAAAA.... LOL. I'll prime it a few more times and see what happens.

Thanks guys, I'll keep you posted!
 
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Old Mar 12, 2011 | 01:48 PM
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The only thing i can tell you , that if you replaced a roller cam with a roller cam it will use the stock push rods and rocker arms , there is no adjustmeant on pedestal mount rockers , did it have any valvetrain noise before the cam swap , i think once its primed and started they will pump up , .....Lew
Well I finally got the truck started today. The rockers are still clattering away. I only had it running for a few minutes, 10 the most. I have a battery light (putting out 14v) and CEL, but those are other issues. I would imagine that if they were going to pump up they would have already. The only possibility I can come up with is that the previous owner (this is a junk yard engine) had new valves installed, that are too short. I did not check anything when I got it, just tore it down......... I'm thinking my only option is adjustable valvetrain. I'm going on Summit Racing to take another look at the stud conversion kit. I see they have pedestal mount rollers, but assume that they too would be non-udjustable.

Any input fellow Ford Fanatics?
 
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Old Mar 12, 2011 | 02:34 PM
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They should have pumped up fast , so theres another problem , wrong push rods or something , i didn't know that it was a junk yard motor that you built , i thought you just swapped cams....roller to roller....
 
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Old Mar 12, 2011 | 04:00 PM
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Its is a junk yard emgine that I resealed, did a quick hone, new rings, & bearings. It is a 97 5.8l roller engine. I let it run for another twenty minutes, still ticking. It's not loud like they are falling out, just noisey like they are out of adjustment.

I'm looking into adjustable valve train components at this point. Will roller rockers fit under stock valve covers?
 
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Old Mar 12, 2011 | 04:10 PM
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I think the 1.6 rockers will fit ? may need to remove the baffles , i use the tall valve covers with the 1.72 ratio...
 
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Old Mar 12, 2011 | 06:33 PM
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Lew, with your tall valve covers did you have problems with the upper intake clearing them? Conanski, did you run stock lifters with this cam in the truck you put it in? I brought the extra rockers, pushrods, and lifters home & bolted them to the engine I have at home, all tight. The only differences, CAM, head gaskets ( too thick maybe?), valves(to short)... I'm debating between adjustable rockers and all their additional expense, or ordering a pushrod length checker, tearing the intake off and trying longer pushrods. I am sooo at my wits end! Then I still have the CEL and battery light to deal with...
 
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Old Mar 12, 2011 | 06:47 PM
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The tall valve covers will clear the upper intake , if you want some more room you can use an intake heat spacer , you will pick up some runner length to , i use the eddy truck intake , thats really tall.....Lew
 
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