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Old Mar 9, 2010 | 07:09 PM
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Doesn't Start

Okay, so my truck won't start. The starter works and the engine cranks. But my instrument panel shows no lights and the engine won't start. Any ideas? Any help would be appreciated.
 
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Old Mar 9, 2010 | 07:22 PM
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First, welcome to FTE

2nd, do you have the WTS start light come on
3rd, if you turn the key on, can you drop under the drivers seat and listen for the fuel pump
4th whats the weather where you are at?

5th.. any mods to your truck??
 
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Old Mar 9, 2010 | 07:28 PM
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by the way check fuse 30 under the dash.. if it is blown, disconnect the fuel bowl heater, then the replace the fuse.
 
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Old Mar 9, 2010 | 07:34 PM
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I can't check for any lights on the instrument cluster. Nothing works on it. The weather is in the upper 50's. Mods: BD X-Monitor and cool down timer were installed today. CFM+ Intake and a KN FIPK installed last week. It worked fine after the X-Monitor was installed, but it worked for only a few minutes after the Cool Down Timer was installed. I hd them uninstall it, but still doesn't work. I will go check fuse #30 and listen for the fuel pump.
 
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Old Mar 9, 2010 | 07:41 PM
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So fuze #30 is good. No fuel pump and no instrument cluster/panel still.
 
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Old Mar 9, 2010 | 07:55 PM
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What year is your truck? Does the WTS light come on with the key? Are you saying you cannot hear the fuel pump come on with the key? Why did you install the K&N? Have you not read about the dusted turbos and engines behind a K&N on here?
 
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Old Mar 9, 2010 | 07:58 PM
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Not to interupt Chris, but can you tell me about the cool down mod and how they did this. I have looked up the XD monitor and that should be a easy install with out any side effects, except for maybe blowing a fuse or two. But what concerns me is how they do the cool down mod??

By the way Chris.. 2002
 
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Old Mar 9, 2010 | 08:10 PM
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By the way Chris.. 2002
Then fuse #30 is the wrong one to check. And the WTS light is the squiggly glow plug light.
 
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Old Mar 9, 2010 | 08:11 PM
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Sorry, got to go put the kids down.. good luck, and good night.. Chris.. have fun and enjoy that beer
 
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Old Mar 9, 2010 | 08:25 PM
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The cool down mod was installed earlier. They installed it by posi-taping the wires into some iginition wires, a brake wire, and something else. Then it plugs into the X-monitor. I didn't read anything on here about K&N before I put it on. And absolutely no lights come on in the instrument cluster. So no WTS light comes on. And no fuel pump when I turn the key to on or start. I have looked at all the fuses and they are all good. I am so lost on this.
 
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Old Mar 9, 2010 | 08:38 PM
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If you have no dash lights, you either have one or more blown fuses, or a short that's not letting the PCM power up. Your headlights still work, right? Turn the key on and test all the fuses with a test light or meter, even the funny shaped fuses.

If all that checks out, pop the hood and start wiggling wiring harnesses while the key is still on. If you hear the fuel pump and stuff come on when you wiggle a harness, start looking for a chaffed wire in that harness.
 
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Old Mar 9, 2010 | 08:39 PM
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Thanks, I will go try that. If I can't find it then I will just take it in to the shop in the morning. Thanks for all the help.
 
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Old Mar 10, 2010 | 05:08 AM
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Then fuse #30 is the wrong one to check. And the WTS light is the squiggly glow plug light.
You keep reminding me of this, yet I keep forgetting,, what year is it the WTS light is no longer a PCM symptom??
 
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Old Mar 10, 2010 | 06:24 AM
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You keep reminding me of this, yet I keep forgetting,, what year is it the WTS light is no longer a PCM symptom??
I don't remember. Maybe 105? The owners manual isn't too clear. I'll have to look through the diagrams and see. You think with me owning an 02 I would know which fuse to watch.
 
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Old Mar 10, 2010 | 11:24 AM
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Okay, so I went back out to the truck this morning. It was a fuse. I blew fuse 116. It's the ignition and apparently the instrument cluster is also on that circuit. All is well with the truck now. Thanks for the help guys.
 
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