4x4 Issues
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4x4 Issues
Had a situation over the weekend that caused my 2000 Excursion to get stuck in the mud/snow. Ended up in 4wd and the front right and the rear right spun and the others ..nothing. Same situation in Low 4x4.
Is this 4 wheel drive or 2 wheel drive
My option was to get a 4x4 half the size of the X to give it a pull. Do these vehicles have anti slip or a mechanism that that I could have used to lock something?
Info or suggestions please, many thanks...
Is this 4 wheel drive or 2 wheel drive
My option was to get a 4x4 half the size of the X to give it a pull. Do these vehicles have anti slip or a mechanism that that I could have used to lock something?Info or suggestions please, many thanks...
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You have two open diffs. There are a many choices for traction aids out there. A search here will break your brain... 
...but that may be necessary for you to see your options.
Tires are more important (IMO) than a traction aid but I still wouldn't venture far off road without a rear locker.
...but that may be necessary for you to see your options. Tires are more important (IMO) than a traction aid but I still wouldn't venture far off road without a rear locker.
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Had a situation over the weekend that caused my 2000 Excursion to get stuck in the mud/snow. Ended up in 4wd and the front right and the rear right spun and the others ..nothing. Same situation in Low 4x4.
Is this 4 wheel drive or 2 wheel drive My option was to get a 4x4 half the size of the X to give it a pull. Do these vehicles have anti slip or a mechanism that that I could have used to lock something?
Info or suggestions please, many thanks...
Is this 4 wheel drive or 2 wheel drive
My option was to get a 4x4 half the size of the X to give it a pull. Do these vehicles have anti slip or a mechanism that that I could have used to lock something?Info or suggestions please, many thanks...
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I know I am relatively new around this forum but after days/hours with other heavytruck owners before you do anything (as far as venturing off pavement) get manual hubs and rear lockers. Tires will help but after the first two again IMHO
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The funny thing is, I got stuck in my buddy's lawn.
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I know, sorry to hear it but I've been stuck in a grassy field that was just WET! Couldnt pull a empty trailer into the field, ended up having to turn around and back it just into the grass.. embarrasing. Weeks later upgraded to manual hubs (milemarker) and havent been stuck in grass since.
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I know, sorry to hear it but I've been stuck in a grassy field that was just WET! Couldnt pull a empty trailer into the field, ended up having to turn around and back it just into the grass.. embarrasing. Weeks later upgraded to manual hubs (milemarker) and havent been stuck in grass since.
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close but not quite, the aftermarket manual hubs dont need a vacuum seal from the pump. Once they are in locked position they will lock unless you put them together wrong. Its a simple yet quick yet no brainer fix. the kit was 60 bucks from autozone (special order) install time was 45 min doing it myself.
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The OPs issues and Mante's issues are really two separate issues. With Mante, the front hubs failed to engage for whatever reason. For Estam it was more than likely the tires and the absence of traction aid(s) (locker, limited slip et al) that created his issue.
Since Estam's truck had power to the front wheels the issue is why/how he lost traction and how it could be avoided in the future. Tires are the #1 thing to consider.
My stock Conti's would not let me move in wet grass! Replaced with a more aggressive & wider tire and no issues...even with my open diff.
Since Estam's truck had power to the front wheels the issue is why/how he lost traction and how it could be avoided in the future. Tires are the #1 thing to consider.
My stock Conti's would not let me move in wet grass! Replaced with a more aggressive & wider tire and no issues...even with my open diff.
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I have a question regarding selecting high 4x4 and low 4x4. I understand the gear ratio changes between the high and low range selection but is there any anti-slip mechanism in the transfer case between the front and rear shafts that engages when either high or low 4x4 ranges are selected? Thanks....
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I have a question regarding selecting high 4x4 and low 4x4. I understand the gear ratio changes between the high and low range selection but is there any anti-slip mechanism in the transfer case between the front and rear shafts that engages when either high or low 4x4 ranges are selected? Thanks....
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Manual locking hubs are great but I believe you will lose your on the fly shifting ability.
The Transfer case in the Ex simply splits the power 50/50. I'm sure you have heard of the generally fancy vehicles that can transfer like 80 % to the front or rear. Like the Mits Evo has (or use to have) a center diff. The ex doesn't work that way. Like Monsta said, if a front wheel got power you don't have a problem with a vacum line. You need a quality mechanical Limited slip or locker. Two different animals. Too long to explain. But it's important that you shop what's best for you. There are many options for the Sterling 10.5 and the costs start around 4 hun to upwards of a grand for the awesome air locker. The somewhat new E locker is supposed to be awesome. I've heard they started selling them for the Sterling 10.5 which is the rear end in the Ex. Maybe someone here knows if that is fact. When funds allow that's what I'd like to replace my limited slip unit in my truck that was replaced at 80K miles already.
The Transfer case in the Ex simply splits the power 50/50. I'm sure you have heard of the generally fancy vehicles that can transfer like 80 % to the front or rear. Like the Mits Evo has (or use to have) a center diff. The ex doesn't work that way. Like Monsta said, if a front wheel got power you don't have a problem with a vacum line. You need a quality mechanical Limited slip or locker. Two different animals. Too long to explain. But it's important that you shop what's best for you. There are many options for the Sterling 10.5 and the costs start around 4 hun to upwards of a grand for the awesome air locker. The somewhat new E locker is supposed to be awesome. I've heard they started selling them for the Sterling 10.5 which is the rear end in the Ex. Maybe someone here knows if that is fact. When funds allow that's what I'd like to replace my limited slip unit in my truck that was replaced at 80K miles already.
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I have been pretty lucky so far. My Ex came with the limited slip rear and it really works. Last week I got into some mud/grass and was able to just drive out of it. But just the weight of the Ex makes it hard to get out of stuff.
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Thanks guys, I have no problem with the standard on the fly vacuum hubs. With a pair of pliers, they pop out in a second and are easily serviced with a great tutorial thanks to Guzzle. I understand about limited slip and lock ups but wasn't quite sure what my newly acquired 2000 Ex actually had. I was hoping it was designed to be useful eq, backing my 5000 lb boat down a well kept gravel ramp, loosing traction on one wheel then having to get a frigging Toyota to pull you out Why bother making it a 4x4 if it's not done right. My take would have made a vehicle of this size when selecting Low Range, lock everything up. If driver knows what he/she is doing, no problem, if not then good for sales of Ford spare parts. Love my Ex, should have checked more as to what 4x4 options it had.
Why bother making it a 4x4 if it's not done right. My take would have made a vehicle of this size when selecting Low Range, lock everything up. If driver knows what he/she is doing, no problem, if not then good for sales of Ford spare parts. Love my Ex, should have checked more as to what 4x4 options it had.