Stock 16" Innie wheels ?
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Stock 16" Innie wheels ?
So the original owner of my truck found 2 old wheels and tires in his barn, he thinks the wheels came on the truck when new.
He had installed wagon wheels on the truck in the 70's.
The wheels are 16 inch, 5 X 5.5 bolt pattern and have raised bumps on the inside where the hubcap goes, no rivits or tabs. Inside dimensions are about 8 1/4". Would the "bottlecap" cover work on these?
The wheels were painted black with what looks to be 3 thin white pinstripes just above where the caps would be.
One had an old Allstate 6.50 X 16 on it, the other a Remington "RUGGED TRAILS" 7.00 X 16 on it, so they have been in that barn for a while.
Are these 16" innie wheels hard to find ?
I would need 2 more of them if anyone knows where I can get them.
I have searched all the junkyards within a 40 mile radius, no old Ford trucks.
Thanks, Doug
He had installed wagon wheels on the truck in the 70's.
The wheels are 16 inch, 5 X 5.5 bolt pattern and have raised bumps on the inside where the hubcap goes, no rivits or tabs. Inside dimensions are about 8 1/4". Would the "bottlecap" cover work on these?
The wheels were painted black with what looks to be 3 thin white pinstripes just above where the caps would be.
One had an old Allstate 6.50 X 16 on it, the other a Remington "RUGGED TRAILS" 7.00 X 16 on it, so they have been in that barn for a while.
Are these 16" innie wheels hard to find ?
I would need 2 more of them if anyone knows where I can get them.
I have searched all the junkyards within a 40 mile radius, no old Ford trucks.
Thanks, Doug
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Doug, the 16 inch wheels were an option available until 1966??? The inner tabs really limit you to which hub caps you can use. The wheels themselves can also be a problem because (at least the 16 5X5.5 that came on my 1965 f100) they may only take a tire with an inner tube because a tubeless will not bead up on that particular wheel. I took all four of mine off and replaced them with aftermarket wheels. The hubcaps are particular to that wheel and I don't know what you mean by "bottlecap". I don't know where you are, but I have four stock wheels if you are interested, and there are four hub caps for them on Ebay right now. Item #280473040583 Good luck.
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Wheel Vintiques makes replacement 16" innie type wheels, However they are not correct for 66 unless it is a four wheel drive.
Wheel Vintiques - Gennie, bare, 14 series
Here is some 16x6
Garbz
Wheel Vintiques - Gennie, bare, 14 series
Here is some 16x6
Garbz
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So the original owner of my truck found 2 old wheels and tires in his barn, he thinks the wheels came on the truck when new.
He had installed wagon wheels on the truck in the 70's.
1965/79 15" station wagon wheel's bolt circle pattern's are either 4.50" or 5.00." Neither will fit an F100.
The wheels are 16 inch, 5 X 5.5 bolt pattern and have raised bumps on the inside where the hubcap goes, no rivits or tabs. Inside dimensions are about 8 1/4".
Raised 'bumps' are considered tabs.
Would the "bottlecap" cover work on these?
Yes.
He had installed wagon wheels on the truck in the 70's.
1965/79 15" station wagon wheel's bolt circle pattern's are either 4.50" or 5.00." Neither will fit an F100.
The wheels are 16 inch, 5 X 5.5 bolt pattern and have raised bumps on the inside where the hubcap goes, no rivits or tabs. Inside dimensions are about 8 1/4".
Raised 'bumps' are considered tabs.
Would the "bottlecap" cover work on these?
Yes.
Original applications: 1948/52 F1 / 1953/65 F100.
Bottlecap "innie" hubcaps will fit either 15" or 16" 5 lug wheels, but were not used on the front wheels of 4WD's.
There was no front wheel hubcap available for 4WD's until 1967. 1959/66 F100 & F250 4WD's did not come with front hubcaps.
16" wheels were an extra cost option available on F100's thru 1979, on 1975/79 F150's. 1966 and later use outie wheels & hubcaps.
In 1966, Ford offered 15" wheel covers for the first time for 2WD & 4WD F100's. The front wheel covers on 4WD's have a cutout for the 4WD's hub to poke thru.
These same wheel covers were also used on all 1966/77 Bronco's.
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Doug,
I suggest you forget looking for two more of those old, narrow wheels and set out to locate a set of 16" wheels from a '66-'79 F100 or '75-'79 F150 (as Bill, the ND, pointed out). Granted they would not be 'period-correct' for your '65, but they'd likely be wider and better suited for readily-available modern radial tires - which is what I suspect you'd prefer to use. Those old, original 16" wheels are REA:LLY NARROW at only 5.5". Just ask your tire store what tires does he offer for such a narrow wheel and you'll quickly realize what I mean. You'd really be limiting yourself on your tire selection now and in the future.
Even the selection of 15" tires is becoming smaller than in past years, so I'd shy away from a set of 15" wheels as well.
Not to mention that the hubcap selection for the '66-'79 16" wheels would also be much larger.
I have a set of '78 Big Bronco styled SPORT (?) wheels on my '65 F100 and they really spiffed it up.
Here is a pic of a '79 truck with the same wheels I put on my '65: https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/a...ictureid=28225
Just my humble opinion,
BarnieTrk
I suggest you forget looking for two more of those old, narrow wheels and set out to locate a set of 16" wheels from a '66-'79 F100 or '75-'79 F150 (as Bill, the ND, pointed out). Granted they would not be 'period-correct' for your '65, but they'd likely be wider and better suited for readily-available modern radial tires - which is what I suspect you'd prefer to use. Those old, original 16" wheels are REA:LLY NARROW at only 5.5". Just ask your tire store what tires does he offer for such a narrow wheel and you'll quickly realize what I mean. You'd really be limiting yourself on your tire selection now and in the future.
Even the selection of 15" tires is becoming smaller than in past years, so I'd shy away from a set of 15" wheels as well.
Not to mention that the hubcap selection for the '66-'79 16" wheels would also be much larger.
I have a set of '78 Big Bronco styled SPORT (?) wheels on my '65 F100 and they really spiffed it up.
Here is a pic of a '79 truck with the same wheels I put on my '65: https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/a...ictureid=28225
Just my humble opinion,
BarnieTrk
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Wheel Vintiques makes replacement 16" innie type wheels, However they are not correct for 66 unless it is a four wheel drive.
Wheel Vintiques - Gennie, bare, 14 series
Here is some 16x6
Garbz
Wheel Vintiques - Gennie, bare, 14 series
Here is some 16x6
Garbz
My 66 parts truck came with 16 inch rims! and the spare was a 16 inch innie, And it was a 2 wheel drive. they had 285 75 16 tires on them
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I'm not joking. No FoMoCo passenger car/station wagon after 1948 has a 5.50" bolt circle pattern.
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Wagon Wheels
Uhh, sorry for the mix-up.
When I said "wagon wheels" I meant these. I'm not sure what you call them, I thought they were called wagon wheels. Pep Boys specials...
I just took the Remington tire off and realized the bead to bead width is only 4", so if I use them it would only be for shows.
Coker has a 6.50 X 16 radial tubeless that looks correct for the truck.
Thanks, Doug
When I said "wagon wheels" I meant these. I'm not sure what you call them, I thought they were called wagon wheels. Pep Boys specials...
I just took the Remington tire off and realized the bead to bead width is only 4", so if I use them it would only be for shows.
Coker has a 6.50 X 16 radial tubeless that looks correct for the truck.
Thanks, Doug
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Are you are referring to one of these Coker tires?
650R16 Excelsior Stahl Sport Radial - Excelsior - Cars & Trucks - Tire Brands
650R16 COKER CLASSIC BLACKWALL TIRE - Coker Classic - Cars & Trucks - Tire Brands
......did you notice that they are listed on-line at $227 and $228 EACH!
....and did you see that they both require a TUBE?
KR-16 500R16/700R16 TR-15 RADIAL TUBE - Tubes - Tire Accessories
...so now add another $25.95 EACH!
That puts ya at over $250 at each corner....
\If so, I sure hope you can find them / get them for less than the listed on-line cost!
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White spoke styled steel wheels.
The above might even be genuine Ford, as Ford began offering this same style of wheel (15" x 8" = D8TZ1007D / Stamped: LK by the valve stem) in 1977.
1977 was the first year Ford offered styled wheels for F100/150's, 1978 for Bronco's.
You could also get this wheel in yellow.
The above might even be genuine Ford, as Ford began offering this same style of wheel (15" x 8" = D8TZ1007D / Stamped: LK by the valve stem) in 1977.
1977 was the first year Ford offered styled wheels for F100/150's, 1978 for Bronco's.
You could also get this wheel in yellow.
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Have you ever seen a wood spoked wagon wheel?
I assuming you're prolly the only person who has not...since these wheels don't look like wood spoked wagon wheels...at all.
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Hmmmm.. I don't recall being the first person, originator, of the term. People have call your precious styled steel wheels "wagon wheels" probably since they were first made. American Racing Sieres 44 wheels are known as White Wagon Wheels. Just a shot in the dark here, but it is probably due to the spoke design.
Do a pole.
What are wagon wheels?
A. White spoke truck wheels.
B. Station wagon wheels.
I must be the only one....
Besides all these people...
white wagon wheels - Google Search
and the people at Jegs
American Racing 44 Series White Wagon Wheels - JEGS
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Hmmmm.. I don't recall being the first person, originator, of the term. People have call your precious styled steel wheels "wagon wheels" probably since they were first made. American Racing Sieres 44 wheels are known as White Wagon Wheels. Just a shot in the dark here, but it is probably due to the spoke design.
Do a pole.
What are wagon wheels?
A. White spoke truck wheels.
B. Station wagon wheels.
I must be the only one....
Besides all these people...
white wagon wheels - Google Search
and the people at Jegs
American Racing 44 Series White Wagon Wheels - JEGS
Do a pole.
What are wagon wheels?
A. White spoke truck wheels.
B. Station wagon wheels.
I must be the only one....
Besides all these people...
white wagon wheels - Google Search
and the people at Jegs
American Racing 44 Series White Wagon Wheels - JEGS
I only go by correct Ford terminology when describing parts, and I only use genuine Ford parts on my vehicles.
I've never heard the term "wagon wheels" inre to spoked style steel wheels...and I've been in parts biz for 48 years, in the car hobby for 54 years.