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Old Mar 1, 2010 | 07:49 PM
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My Ford dealer says that for my warranty to be valid, I need to return the exhaust back to stock on the '06 F350 4x4 PS diesel crew cab/long bed. I have all ready had a problem with the head gaskets which the service guy says is because the cat/muffler is gone are gone, basically a strait exhaust, and this is causing the turbo to " over boost ". I have been told by several other mechanics that this is BS but to keep Ford happy, I would like to return the exhaust to stock. My question (finally) is does any body know where I can get a stock exhaust for my truck and not pay an arm and a leg.
 
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Old Mar 1, 2010 | 08:03 PM
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Your dealer is just trying to get out of the warranty. There is no way the exhaust is going to cause an over boost by the turbo. Ford knows that the over boost is a known problem caused by corrosion and coking in the vains on the exhaust side of the turbo. I would think if anything a less restrictive exhaust would help prevent this rather than cause it. Good luck finding a stock exhaust. I cut mine up and threw it away and the dealer never said a word about it when he replaced my turbo for over boosting.
 
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Old Mar 1, 2010 | 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by 3000 FPS
Your dealer is just trying to get out of the warranty.

I think you misuderstrand how the world works in this case. the dealer is only tring to protect it ASSsets. The dealer gets paid by ford and stands a risk of losing a customer or getting a claim charged back to them. it not the ford dealers fault someone chose to modify their truck so please tell me why the dealer should risk having to pay for his claim if the result is found to be from the modified parts.

now on to the op find a new shop. if your truck has the updated flash it will set a dtc for an overboost code and turn on the wrench lamp it wich you can refer the dealer to the latist flash tsb that states such. at that point if they fail to change their outlook find a shop that will work with you.

if you want to get back to oem exhaust offer your pipes for trade on your local craigs list or the like.
 
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Old Mar 1, 2010 | 11:35 PM
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I think you misuderstrand how the world works in this case. the dealer is only tring to protect it ASSsets. The dealer gets paid by ford and stands a risk of losing a customer or getting a claim charged back to them. it not the ford dealers fault someone chose to modify their truck so please tell me why the dealer should risk having to pay for his claim if the result is found to be from the modified parts.

now on to the op find a new shop. if your truck has the updated flash it will set a dtc for an overboost code and turn on the wrench lamp it wich you can refer the dealer to the latist flash tsb that states such. at that point if they fail to change their outlook find a shop that will work with you.

if you want to get back to oem exhaust offer your pipes for trade on your local craigs list or the like.
I do agree with you that if you modify your truck and the dealer can link damage to the truck as a result of that modification they can deny the warranty work. In this case the exhaust does not have any effect on the over boost of the turbo and it is up to the dealer to present it to Ford that way. There are plenty of dealers who work on modified trucks and honor the warranty. They do not seem to have any problems getting their reimbursements from Ford. I believe according to the warranty they have to prove that the modifications you have done actually caused the damage to the truck. In this case they could refuse service based on the fact there is no cat on the truck which is a federal law.
An example would be a K&N intake and the turbo was dusted because of debris that was allowed in. That would void warranty on the turbo but it would not void warranty on an oil cooler going bad.
 
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Old Mar 2, 2010 | 08:06 PM
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Ya i dont disagree with what you are saying... trust in the fact im very well versed with the workings of ford. Ive been with them for 17 years now.
I for one dont really care what comes through my stall. Ill work on whats there. I have house to pay for and a family to feed. I do my best to bill the right person or people at the end of the day.
I provided the proof the op needs to support his case should the need arise as well. At the end of the day if the dealer is not willing to do the work and can produce a valid reason then they can not be forced to.
and so far as the moss act you are somewhat correct. the condition/concern does not have to have been caused by the modification it only needs to be a contributing factor of it.
 
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